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Ok yet Paul was seperated by God from His mother’s womb. Gal 1:15. Same verb used in Romans 1:1 and also the immediate context of Gal 1describes and defines what the word means.

Maybe not. But they all were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in love. They were also predestinated unto adoption as sons, and Paul connects this to the former clause, ( chosen from the foundation of the world) with an AORIST participle.

You said no one is chosen before they are saved. Paul disagrees with you. Galatians 1:15.

So are you saying Paul was chosen to ministry before he was elected by the foreknowledge of God? Yes or no?

I was like that for years myself.

Yes. Verse 16 shows the PURPOSE of verse 15. Good point. The purpose of God seperating Paul from His mother’s womb and calling him was to reveal His Son in him, that he might preach him among the heathen.

So God seperated Paul unto service before he chose Him? That’s a strange doctrine.

I didnt say that the text said “before the foundation of the world. I was responding to your “ not until after conversion” comment. So now that that red herring of yours is removed, back to what was said. You said no one is chosen until they are saved. Galatians 1:15 says you’re wrong.

You said people are not chosen until they are saved. Paul said he was seperated from his mother’s womb. Same greek word he used in Romans 1:1, set apart to the gospel of God Does God seperate people unto ministry while their conversion is unknown in His mind? So in your paradigm God had no...

This was regarding your statement that election only happens after conversion. And name calling is against the rules. Straighten up.

You gave Ephesians 1:4-5 as evidence that election and predestination happen after conversion. They show no such thing. In fact, they show the opposite. Try again

Read Galatians 1:15 again.

Yes, God has preserved His Word, just as He said He would. It is a firm foundation.

Paul uses this term PROORIZO in reference to God setting him apart to service in Romans 1:1 and Galatians 1:15. In Galatians 1:15 he said he was set apart from his mother's womb. So much for the idea that some have that predestination happens after conversion. God didn't suddenly discover that...

Was Paul chosen before or after salvation? Galatians 1:15.

The first passage is referring to Jesus. There is exactly one place where eklektos is applied to Jesus in the NT. The other twelve times the word is used, it refers to believers The second verse. Did God choose Paul to be a chosen vessel before or after he was born?

BTW, what do I need to avoid? I have answered all these questions numerous times already. Election is God’s choice of whos, not what’s. Election is based on God’s foreknowledge. Predestination is the WHAT the elect are predestined to. Before the foundation of the world is the WHEN this...

The Jews were very aware of foreknowledge of God. It permeated the Old Testament. Since we don’t seem to study the OT much, we dont get it

Excuse me? I answered your question. Foreknowledge is indicative of God’s Omniscience. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Omniscience of God. Do you believe God is eternally Omniscient?