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Do a word study on eklego and eklektos.

Your claim is that Calvinism is Gnostic. That is your goalpost. Please do not move goalposts. Determinism is not Gnostic in origin, but predated it by several centuries. Therefore, Determinism does not indicate Gnosticism. Simple rules of logic.

God has revealed that He knows the end from the beginning. There is nothing hidden from Him. I believe what God says about Himself.

The things you list are not gnostic tenets. Gnostic writings are widely available and even online for free. If you have citations from primary sources that show a connection, that is the the type of evidence that interests me.

Nothing is undetermined in God’s knowledge, btw.

A. No secret knowledge in Calvinism. B. Bible teaches election C. Determinism was around long before Gnosticism and Mani. Believing in determinism does not make one a Gnostic.

election is in the Bible. Ears to hear? Jesus said that. Jesus was not a follower of Mani Do you even know what the Calvinist doctrine of inability is? It has nothing to do with secret knowledge. A person can know everything you and I and everyone else here put together knows and still be...

Every word and doctrine you attributed to Mani is in scripture. Except Regeneration preceding faith...while I do not believe that either, I don’t see any connection between that and Mani If you think there is a historical connection between regeneration before faith and Manichaeism, feel free...

The person is saved by the second paragraph. The rest is growth, which happens at different paces for different people for various reasons. The fact that Jesus died for our sins and rose again is all we really need to know to be saved.

Maybe tommorow we can discuss further. Have a restful sleep, sister.

Yes. I was all these things and more. Man is dead in that He is seperated by sin from the only source of spiritual life. We were not dead physically, or mentally or even volitionally where we were incapable of a physical action of coming to an altar or getting baptized , ( which does not save)...

I am open to whatever God reveals to me through the scripture. I believe in a Holy Spirit drawing/conviction through preaching that convicts a man of sin and publicly displays Christ crucified and risen and calls to come. I am not a pelagian or a semi pelagian. I believe that there is an active...

Yes. Except for things they may be wrong about. We believe every word, though we may not rightly understand every word. But God reveals it in time.

Btw, Sola scriptura relates to the sufficiency of scripture. All truth related to salvation and godly life and practice are found in scripture and scripture is the only infallible rule of faith and practice. I am influenced by a lot of preachers, teachers, and writers. But they are not the...

I didn’t say that. I said we are sola scriptura, Conservative Protestants are sola scriptura. RCC and some others are not.

If you consider context, we are talking about Augustine’s influence on Calvin. What Augustine believed before he was converted is irrelevant to the topic, because Calvin was influenced by his writings which he wrote post conversion, Calvin was not influenced by Augustines pre conversion beliefs...

Key word is Preconversion. His teachings post conversion were not Manichaeism in any way, shape or form. That system bears NO resemblance to Christianity, Augustine, or Calvinism.

I agree with Calvinists on some things like Sovereignty of God, faith itself is born of Grace, pretemporal election and predestination, ( but I don’t hold to double predestination) and other things. I have disagreements with much of the Tulip though. For example I believe that man in His...

I believe in salvation by Grace through faith. My question is this; is the modern church ignoring the great commission by making as many converts as they can, but not discipling people? Lordship/ discipleship is after saved by grace through faith. Yet Jesus commanded us to make disciples...