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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I believe in election based on God’s foreknowledge.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    If properly understanding the syntax of Ephesians 1:5 makes me a Calvinist, maybe you should get on board. But no, I am not a Calvinist. Making a point about the syntax of a passage does not make one a Calvinist.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    No, I did not use RBM. Just a Greek New Testament.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Seed thought five of bullet point 1 agrees with my exegesis of Ephesians 1:5.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Addition to last post. Verse 3 refers to every spiritual blessing given us in Christ Jesus. Paul then goes on to enumerate many of those blessings. Some, election, predestination happened in eternity past. Some happened after conversion. And some will happen in the future. ( that in the...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    “ having predestinated” in verse 5 is an aorist participle following verse 4 which says that God chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world. According as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world...having predestinated us (aorist participle) The predestination MUST BE...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    The Jewish remnant and the Gentiles who believe. Made one in Christ. The mystery that Paul speaks of in other places.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So where does the Bible say election and predestination happen after our conversion?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I actually see it this way as well. I’m also glad you said the hardening of Israel is temporary. I’m in general agreement with you here.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    There is no writing, tradition, or teaching that I am willing to stake my life and my soul on other than the Word of God.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Chosen to be holy and without blame before Him in love Sanctification, justification, reconciliation/relationship. That’s salvation language there, friend.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You never showed me where the scripture says election and predestination happen after conversion. That request is still on the table.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Beginning around 50 AD or so, right? You are correct. They had the writings of Paul, James, and others.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Is this in reference to my posts on the great commission?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    i have heard a lot about that book, but haven’t read it.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Romans 8: 28-30. Those whom He foreknew in eternity past will infallibly be saved. I agree with this, but stop short of double predestination.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I believe in baptism. Every believer ought to be baptized unless circumstance hinders it ( like thief on the cross) I just don’t think a person needs to wait around to be baptized in order to receive eternal life. The scripture says that whoever believes HAS eternal life In addition, if a...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    God has elected whos, not what’s in eternity past. Ephesians 1:4. It’s best to just accept that and not wrestle with it too much. Do I fully understand election? Of course not. Anyone who says they do does not understand what the Bible teaches about election at all. I don’t worry about it. I...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    The Bible of the early church was the Tanach. They did have oral traditions, but all that we need has been encapsulated in God’s Word and the canon of scripture was complete by the late first to early second century, somewhere in there. God saw to it.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Do we fully understand His purposes?