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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 scripture is the only thing we possess that is God breathed Only God is infallible Therefore, only scripture is infallible
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I think if you look into it, you will see that the gnostic view of who is able to receive what is called Gnosis and the Calvinist view of election are diametrically opposed. The gnostic system is man based. Something in the person that makes them able to receive the secret gnosis. In...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    If you don’t know the answer to that, then you cannot equate the Calvinistic view of election with Gnosticism. So what about the second question. How or why does one receive gnosis in Gnosticism
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What is God’s basis of election in Calvinism? How did people attain secret knowledge in Gnosticism? The two answers will show that you are giving similarities that do not exist.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Does anyone other than the elect believe the gospel?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You said any knowledge particular to only the elect ( post 473) is a gnostic belief. Paul begs to differ with you
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    God doesn’t elect people who will never believe the Gospel, so the answer is no.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    That’s not what you said in 473. You’re moving goalposts again.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You said that the concept of having knowledge that others cannot have in their natural state is gnostic. Yet Paul said the spiritual man holds knowledge that the natural man cannot know or discern So either you are wrong or Paul is a gnostic.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    But it is knowledge held only by the regenerate. And in post 473, you insinuated that was a gnostic concept. So you’re definitely painting with a very broad brush, and are going way outside the lines.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So the regenerate do have knowledge that the unregenerate cannot know ( until they be regenerated? ). There is knowledge that a spiritual man possesses that a natural man cannot possess? Because you called this concept gnostic earlier.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but the Father has revealed it. Unto you is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom, but to them it is not given. I thank you Father that you have hidden these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them to babes
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Still only known and DISCERNED by some.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Define the word “know” as it is used in 1 Cor. 2:14. If you dare...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Did Paul say the things of the Spirit cannot be known by the natural man? I thought I saw that there in that verse.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Faith’s mama is Grace.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Nothing you bring up indicates that he was a gnostic. Influenced by philosophers? Like many ECF, yes. Gnostic? No.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What effects did Adam’s fall have on his descendants?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Are there things that can only be known and understood by the elect? 1 Corinthians 2:14 I guess Paul was a gnostic in your book?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Election is not based on the elect having secret knowledge in Calvinism. You can drop that imagined correlation now.