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    Understanding God’s election

    It's a bummer you cannot believe Peter. He didn't tell his original audience to look for and hasten the rapture or 1,000-year kingdom. Instead, he told them to look for and hasten JUDGEMENT DAY -- the Day of the Lord -- when also the entire creation will be renewed. And the creation will not...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I find it odd that you totally omitted God's "chief" attribute: HOLINESS! You say (and rightfully so) that God *IS* love. But the prophet also said Holy, Holy, Holy *IS* the Lord of Hosts. (When something is repeated more than once in scripture, it is designed to catch our attention. We are...
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    Understanding God’s election

    As for me, I'm already doing it! I'm looking past this current "millennial" reign to the Day of the Lord, as Peter instructed (2Pet 3:14).
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well...in dispensationalism, there are multiples of everything...including "the last day". :LOL:
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    Understanding God’s election

    But God is MORE than love! You guys should take Solomon's advice and avoid EXTREMES (Eccl 7:18). And a doctrine becomes extreme when it is consistently advanced, taught and preached on at the expense of other important doctrines.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Hmmm...technically, that isn't true. We're in the "millennial" reign. The spiritual, invisible kingdom was inaugurated at Pentecost and will be consummated at the Parousia at which time it will become the eternal, visible kingdom. Christ is already reigning in his kingdom from heaven and we...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Did God put the sons and daughters of Adam in their helpless and hopeless condition? Spiritual Death is a bear isn't it?
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    Understanding God’s election

    I thank you for sparing this thread of your tiresome worldly wisdom and understanding. Sparing us of your gifts of immense learning and deep insights might actually be a sign that you have some Christmas spirit in you...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well, golly gee whizikers. Since God provided no salvific remedy for the fallen angels, I guess that would make Him something less than "all-loving".
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    Understanding God’s election

    How so? And I do invite all, through the Gospel, to receive the gift of life eternal. Why wouldn't I? Am I omniscient? Do I know who God has chosen for eternal life before the foundation of the world?
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    Understanding God’s election

    Did Roger say that God was done with Jews as a people? Get off on tangents often? And you dispensationalists keep forgetting one thing: In this eternal New Covenant age that we're in, Jesus has only ONE flock of sheep that consists of Jewish and Gentiles believers. P.S. Abraham is my...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Why would I tell an unbeliever that? Do I know who God has predestined to be saved? I'm a mere mortal. One man plants, another man waters but it's GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE, as he wishes. The one who plants and the one who waters are nothing (1Cor 3:6-7). Further, why would I detract from...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Oh...I get that part into my message, as well, by imploring them to do various things, such as reading the scriptures for themselves, inviting them to church, offering sincere prayers to God to open their minds and hearts, etc.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Lying and bearing false witness is rampant on this thread. You haven't noticed that by now? At least when I post an "FTFY" message, most people (you being the exception, evidently) recognize it for what it obviously is: sarcasm.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I don't knowingly choose lies because God's grace KEEPS me! It preserves me!
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    Understanding God’s election

    Nonsense! God does the "love the world" -- just not in the distributive sense as you think -- but in the limited, biblical sense to wit: Rev 5:9 9 And they sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased...
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    Understanding God’s election

    When I present the Gospel, I tell people that Christ died for all those who come to believe on Him. And that is a thoroughly biblical statement.
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    Understanding God’s election

    FTFY! :coffee:
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    Understanding God’s election

    Hey, Einstein, who is the "us" in v.16? (Hint: check out vv. 11-12 for additional CONTEXT!)
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    Understanding God’s election

    God's elect, of course. These are the ones whom Father [fore]knew in eternity Rom 8:29; 11:2). These are the ones upon whom he set his personal, intimate, familial , covenantal love.