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There is no single verse ANYWHERE that proves either a pretrib, prewrath, or posttrib rapture. NONE. But taken as a whole, all the end times scriptures prove ONE theory far above all others. I suggest you know all the pretrib scriptures, but just like to argue. It is very simple, if you wish...

Runningman wrote: "Someone is right and someone is wrong here. I'm going with the scripture on this one where there is a single coming of Jesus on the clouds with His angels to gather His elect immediately after the tribulation. " Sorry, there is no verse anywhere that says Jesus comes on the...

It is a fact of scripture that He comes to the clouds. This is juxtaposed with His coming in Rev. 19 where "every eye will see Him: as lightning flashing across a dark sky. It is just as much of a fact that the dead in Christ will rise. When we establish from Paul WHEN - just before the Day of...

Not in the slightest. If you study all the rapture verses and compare them with the Second Advent verses, the commonalities are more than any so-called differences. You have ZERO verses that say that John "saw raptured church" in heaven. That's just your opinion. By that time, the VAST...

There is no verse or passage that make clear the idea that Jesus comes "in the clouds", then resurrects the bodies of all dead saints, then changes all living saints, then catchings them all up to Him in the clouds, and then brings them right back to the earth. You KNOW this is true. So why...

The truth is, it is in scripture but you don't see it, or don't WANT to see it.

You seem like the blind trying to lead the blind. The truth is, you can't find the verses that says that...probably because you don't WANT to find them. It is not that there are no verses. John 14 is a verse that mentions heaven. Rev. 7 mentions heaven. Why would anyone want to fight against...

Free Grace, this is SO SIMPLE: He came ONCE or one time or the FIRST time to die on the cross. The next coming then must be His second coming: RIGHT? IF at His next coming it is only to the air FOR His saints as Paul tells us, will that then be His second coming? And if He comes again 7 years...

I wasn't speaking about those who WROTE the Scripture, obviously. I was speaking about those NOW who claim "direct revelation". Yet we serve a God that is the SAME, Yesterday, today and forever. What has changed? We are still in the church age. Jesus said "my sheep know my voice..." Are you...

Why did you not admit you were mistaken about the clouds?

NONE? Are you SURE? What about John 14? "I go" WHERE did Jesus Go? There are over a dozen verses that tell us Jesus returned to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father. Do you DOUBT Jesus returned to heaven. Perhaps you think the mansions He built are on Orion? (I am on purpose being...

Are you SURE of this? I was sure there was a verse about clouds. "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air (and in the clouds]." As for taking the church back to heaven, why do you dis John 14? Where did Jesus go? He...

Because there can be no discussion with that nuclear bomb dropped. Instead my job as a reporter is to simply report my $.02 . If they agree...fine I disagree Paul told us to let 2 or 3 prophecy (speaking Supernaturally by the Holy Spirit) and let the others judge. The book of Acts has many...

Those who think they have gotten "direct revelation" from the Lord are totally deceived. So Paul was totally deceived and his gospel by which we will be judges is wrong. With that kind of faith, it is quite sure God is not going to speak to you. But what are you going to do with what Jesus...

Perhaps the 144,000 is not in any way related to the parable of the virgins. What then? I don't know of any scripture that would show is they are related.

Every time Jesus taught me, He used the written word to teach. I always use the written word. For example, Jesus asked me, "At the time John saw this vision, I had already been in heaven for years Why did John not immediately see me (Rev. 4) at the right hand of the Father? There are over a...

Is the great crowd, too large to number, martyrs, or are they the raptured church with resurrection bodies?

Could you show the verse that they DO get to heaven? I have never heard that before.

Let's see: "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them..." While the church is judging during the Millennial reign, what could God give YOU to do? Since you don't believe in this, God will probably give you something else to do. Can you play a harp? Float on a...

Is there something we as born again believers (really ANYONE) can do to change the way we feel in the long run? The answer is a resounding YES! Romans 10: 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if...