Yielding sir, yielding.
Furthermore, the critical juncture is always RECEVING Him. Everything else follows.
Rediscovering pisteuo.
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Furthermore, the critical juncture is always RECEVING Him. Everything else follows.
Did anything start to happen as the result of your surrender? Even though you hinted you just did it once.
Gods ways tells us we need to be doing that every day. The surrendered life stops, everything stops.
Yielding is an act of will, of personal volition.
Jhn 7:17
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Thats why surrender is the perfect word.
If ive surrendered my life to Him, that life is nolonger any of my business anymore, it's His business now.
So if He puts His spirit in me, yes it's received, but not received as a primary part of the surrendered life (faith).
The word receive if we're not careful could indicate we consider our lives to still be ours.
But your right if I'm following you correctly, once the Spirit of Christ is given to us as the result of a continually surrendered life, everything else follows, as long as we continue in faith, continue surrendering our lives to Him.
The word receive if we're not careful could indicate we consider our lives to still be ours.
Disagree, the terms lambano/dechomai are always the crucial turning points in the many Biblical narratives regarding Christs ministry. Furthermore (and most importantly) a legitimate Biblical RECEIVING Him always mean receiving Christ as Lord and Savior.
When we are in a battle with an enemy, and we are captured with the foot of our enemy on our neck, do we yield or surrender? We yield as long as we know we are now slaves to the one we're yielding to. We no longer have any rights in that relationship. He is the despot over our lives. The word surrender communicates that more conclusively.
Yes, we are God enemy before He called us out . When we respond to the call, we are surrendering, just like on a battle field.
And yes, later, after we have been sealed and are His, then if Gods word is available to us, or more important a gifted teacher is available to us, then we can accept His teachings as a part of our daily bread. His word becomes like a mirror to reflect His work being done in and through us at that point.
Don't you have any faith that God can teach His own children Himself? Why would it be more important that we get His guidance and wisdom secondhand through some "gifted" teacher when God has given each of us His Holy Spirit?
Trusting "gifted" teachers is why false doctrines proliferate.
Don't you have any faith that God can teach His own children Himself? Why would it be more important that we get His guidance and wisdom secondhand through some "gifted" techer when God has given each of us His Holy Spirit?
Trusting "gifted" teachers is why false doctrines proliferate.
Eph. 4:11-12,
Your either one of these gifted ministers doing the perfecting, or your one of those ones being perfected.
T he problem is those who think they know better and don't need a gifted teacher. Thats
Where all your false doctrines come from.
I've searched continually for 38 years and have found 1 maybe 2 gifted teachers. So it helps if you can discern the difference.
I'm not the one going around insisting we use your definition of pisteuo. THAT'S YOU.
God has been fine to teach His people Himself without you interfering. You are just doing this to gain followers for yourself.
I alreadty have a gifted teacher. His name is Jesus, my Lord and Savior. No one else is better.
I'm not the one going around insisting we use your definition of pisteuo. THAT'S YOU.
God has been fine to teach His people Himself without you interfering. You are just doing this to gain followers for yourself.
I alreadty have a gifted teacher. His name is Jesus, my Lord and Savior. No one else is better.
Vines definition, get that right at least.
Jesus, the Lord and savior.I'm not the one going around insisting we use your definition of pisteuo. THAT'S YOU.
God has been fine to teach His people Himself without you interfering. You are just doing this to gain followers for yourself.
I alreadty have a gifted teacher. His name is Jesus, my Lord and Savior. No one else is better.
The one you refuse to surrender your life and will over to?
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Are you saying you've only come across one or two people who know as much as you in 38 years?
