Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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well anyway with a usernames like yours its so easy to imagine your going to say what to anything,
Well you know what, you should change your name to whatever, because thats the label im shoving on you from now on.
Mr whatever
well if you believe that's true why say to magenta Your God is a mob boss who gets what he wants. ?
Iv'e started looking for a verse that says "And the Lord shewed me ten carpenters."And NightTwister!!!.
Spoken like a true Satanist! Satan, too, must hate God's Lordship and rule over His creation.
And for your info, sovereignty, justice and integrity are not mutually exclusive concepts.
I am not seeing the intent of phrase "all our righteousness are as filthy rags" as God stating that good works are inherently evil, but that the act of good works is a self-deception if one is thinking one can make oneself good enough.
Also, this has a specific historical context connected to the actions of the Israelites.
Romans 8:8
Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
Job 14:4
Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one!
Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
You seem to have a great deal of difficulty grasping that no works save anybody,
that nobody is good enough, and this does not apply just to ancient Israelis!
Titus 3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His
mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
If those "good works" were not of faith, then they were sinful (Rom 14:23).
The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14
It is tough life defending a "system" that is becoming more and more exposed and reviled by biblical evangelical traditional Christians.
The stealth Calvinism worked for a time, using deception, planning, scheming and covert methods, all well documented by the Calvinists themselves.
Sadly, people who lack spiritual discernment were taken in by those false teachers on high pedestals, yes even some of us on this thread admit to the same, but the deception is being exposed through all forms of media now.
God will not be mocked.
I know that He does not appreciate having HIS plan of salvation corrupted from 'whosoever" to >>>>> "those I have created as favorites and others I have created for damnation"
So the lashing out, only once again reveals the tremendous insecurity that comes with belonging to a failing sect.
The TULIP doctrine was demolished pages ago, yet we hope by the continual rebuttal that others will not fall prey to what is outside of traditional evangelical Christianity.
For sadly they too will find themselves with constant insecurity and the continual need to lash out to protect their paltry investment which has negative returns.
How can there be integrity when the movement of the last 50 years or so, has been based on covert operations.
Their mission field has been other evangelical churches.
They seek converts in the church because they have no Gospel, they have divine decree and election.
have you not noticed how he twists the word to suit others and go against others but then twists it back to suit himself, I wonder how a person can be so irrational, it's almost like he doesn't know what he saying and has not put any thought into his posts,
It's quite disturbing
says the person that says enabling grace isn't in the bible.It is tough life defending a "system" that is becoming more and more exposed and reviled by biblical evangelical traditional Christians.
The stealth Calvinism worked for a time, using deception, planning, scheming and covert methods, all well documented by the Calvinists themselves.
Sadly, people who lack spiritual discernment were taken in by those false teachers on high pedestals, yes even some of us on this thread admit to the same, but the deception is being exposed through all forms of media now.
God will not be mocked.
I know that He does not appreciate having HIS plan of salvation corrupted from 'whosoever" to >>>>> "those I have created as favorites and others I have created for damnation"
So the lashing out, only once again reveals the tremendous insecurity that comes with belonging to a failing sect.
The TULIP doctrine was demolished pages ago, yet we hope by the continual rebuttal that others will not fall prey to what is outside of traditional evangelical Christianity.
For sadly they too will find themselves with constant insecurity and the continual need to lash out to protect their paltry investment which has negative returns.
[QUOTE="HeIsHere, post: 5639340, member: 316104"]It is tough life defending a "system" that is becoming more and more exposed and reviled by biblical evangelical traditional Christians.
The stealth Calvinism worked for a time, using deception, planning, scheming and covert methods, all well documented by the Calvinists themselves.
Sadly, people who lack spiritual discernment were taken in by those false teachers on high pedestals, yes even some of us on this thread admit to the same, but the deception is being exposed through all forms of media now.
God will not be mocked.
I know that He does not appreciate having HIS plan of salvation corrupted from 'whosoever" to >>>>> "those I have created as favorites and others I have created for damnation"
So the lashing out, only once again reveals the tremendous insecurity that comes with belonging to a failing sect.
The TULIP doctrine was demolished pages ago, yet we hope by the continual rebuttal that others will not fall prey to what is outside of traditional evangelical Christianity.
For sadly they too will find themselves with constant insecurity and the continual need to lash out to protect their paltry investment which has negative returns. [/QUOTE]
Not hardly! But what you said above could easily be applied to Dispensational Theology, as I've been reading for the last several years now how that convoluted system of eschatology is not nearly as popular as it once was; for people are shifting more and more to either Amillenialism or Postmillenialism.
The stealth Calvinism worked for a time, using deception, planning, scheming and covert methods, all well documented by the Calvinists themselves.
Sadly, people who lack spiritual discernment were taken in by those false teachers on high pedestals, yes even some of us on this thread admit to the same, but the deception is being exposed through all forms of media now.
God will not be mocked.
I know that He does not appreciate having HIS plan of salvation corrupted from 'whosoever" to >>>>> "those I have created as favorites and others I have created for damnation"
So the lashing out, only once again reveals the tremendous insecurity that comes with belonging to a failing sect.
The TULIP doctrine was demolished pages ago, yet we hope by the continual rebuttal that others will not fall prey to what is outside of traditional evangelical Christianity.
For sadly they too will find themselves with constant insecurity and the continual need to lash out to protect their paltry investment which has negative returns. [/QUOTE]
Not hardly! But what you said above could easily be applied to Dispensational Theology, as I've been reading for the last several years now how that convoluted system of eschatology is not nearly as popular as it once was; for people are shifting more and more to either Amillenialism or Postmillenialism.
[QUOTE="HeIsHere, post: 5639340, member: 316104"]It is tough life defending a "system" that is becoming more and more exposed and reviled by biblical evangelical traditional Christians.
The stealth Calvinism worked for a time, using deception, planning, scheming and covert methods, all well documented by the Calvinists themselves.
Sadly, people who lack spiritual discernment were taken in by those false teachers on high pedestals, yes even some of us on this thread admit to the same, but the deception is being exposed through all forms of media now.
God will not be mocked.
I know that He does not appreciate having HIS plan of salvation corrupted from 'whosoever" to >>>>> "those I have created as favorites and others I have created for damnation"
So the lashing out, only once again reveals the tremendous insecurity that comes with belonging to a failing sect.
The TULIP doctrine was demolished pages ago, yet we hope by the continual rebuttal that others will not fall prey to what is outside of traditional evangelical Christianity.
For sadly they too will find themselves with constant insecurity and the continual need to lash out to protect their paltry investment which has negative returns.
Not hardly! But what you said above could easily be applied to Dispensational Theology, as I've been reading for the last several years now how that convoluted system of eschatology is not nearly as popular as it once was; for people are shifting more and more to either Amillenialism or Postmillenialism.[/QUOTE]
@Rufus, well we agree, that is why I am not a dispensationalist either.
NO special selection process.
God offers the GIFT of salvation to whosoever hears and believes
Regeneration does not precede faith and faith is not a special gift only bequeathed to some, He GIVES all the same opportunity to accept His gift
It’s really that simple He IS THAT sovereign
Thank you Jesus!
God offers the GIFT of salvation to whosoever hears and believes
Regeneration does not precede faith and faith is not a special gift only bequeathed to some, He GIVES all the same opportunity to accept His gift
It’s really that simple He IS THAT sovereign
Thank you Jesus!
nope ... you again fixed it for yourself.
I already showed you ... but you cannot see it ... and I cannot "fix that for you" ... that's something only God can work in your heart.Jordon said:So show me the passage where God slayed an animal to cover them with skin
Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
From Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible (bold/underline mine):
... these were made of the skins of beasts, not of the skin of the serpent, as the Targum of Jonathan; but of creatures slain, not merely for this purpose, nor for food, but for sacrifice, as a type of the woman's seed, whose heel was to be bruised, or who was to suffer death for the sins of men; and therefore to keep up and direct the faith of our first parents to the slain Lamb of God from the foundation of the world, and of all believers in all ages, until the Messiah should come and die, and become a sacrifice for sin, the sacrifices of slain beasts were appointed ...
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