Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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That is an interesting view, but I trust that you are aware that the first mention of "sin" recorded is in Genesis 4:7 "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door." God, in Genesis 3 never calls Adam's or Eve's action as "sin"

And, God never calls the serpent's action as temptation.
 
being able to obey is not the same as God decreeing Adam to sin.

God decreed to have Adam's sin known and recorded for history. But, God did not decree Adam to sin.

You should learn to better master the English language, please.
 
God decreed to have Adam's sin known and recorded for history. But, God did not decree Adam to sin.

You should learn to better master the English language, please.
listen

God did not decree sin.


God did not decree sin .


God did not decree sin .
 
God decreed to have Adam's sin known and recorded for history. But, God did not decree Adam to sin.

You should learn to better master the English language, please.
Gods inherent will in the unbeliever as preached by a true Calvie church, the wannabe calvies in this thread are false teachers 🙂


Psalm 47:8

King James Version



8 God reigneth over the heathen (unbelievers): God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness 🙂
 
Says... the purple haired girl, whispering into the ear of a unicorn....

With a dragon tattoo on her left arm?

(Reminder!)

Your free will chose that avatar!
No the picture you want to paint is magenta is witch,

And now your blaming her free will as your way of saying your wrong, as that is what you would rather do than repent, You are totally deluded

One word for is.

His inherent will in everyone

Hebrews 4:13
 
So eve and Adam took no notice Of Gods enabling grace then 🙂
God's offering was sufficient to cover the transgression of both Adam and Eve ... both Adam and Eve were clothed with coats of skins to cover the shame of their sin.

Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

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If they have been "enabled" they cannot be in a place where they have "rejected" God.
every time we sin we reject God's "enabling grace" ...

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

God is faithful. He provides a way for us to escape. we are weak and, at times, we behave rashly ... we do not seek the way God has provided for us to escape and we fall prey.

God also provides a way for us to again fellowship with Him ...

1 John 1:8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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God's offering was sufficient to cover the transgression of both Adam and Eve ... both Adam and Eve were clothed with coats of skins to cover the shame of their sin.

Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

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what your quoting is a theological concept 🙂

Clothing them was an act of his grace and love and could be seen as a shadow of the covering to come, Jesus Christ which also only happens by his grace to.

Its more like adam and eve where not forgiven at the time of God covering them, as he banished them from the garden in there fallen condition with there clothes on, so the covering was not an act of covering there sin 🙂 it was an act of God providing a protective hedge until they could repent properly and be transformed by his grace as that never happened in the Garden,

Fixed it for you
 
what your quoting is a theological concept 🙂

Clothing them was an act of his grace and love and could be seen as a shadow of the covering to come, Jesus Christ which also only happens by his grace to.

Its more like adam and eve where not forgiven at the time of God covering them, as he banished them from the garden in there fallen condition with there clothes on, so the covering was not an act of covering there sin 🙂 it was an act of God providing a protective hedge until they could repent properly and be transformed by his grace as that never happened in the Garden,
In order to make the coats, an animal had to be killed ... without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Neither Adam nor Eve rejected the coats ... both were clothed to cover the shame of their sin ... both received remission.

Gen 3:21 is a foreshadowing of the Lord Jesus Christ ... His ultimate sacrifice for the sin of all mankind.

Gen 3:21 reveals God's mercy and grace. The sin of Adam and Eve was remitted through the shedding of blood and God did not leave Adam and Eve to wander about in fig leaves once they were removed from the garden of Eden.




Jordon said:
Fixed it for you
nope ... "fixed it" for yourself.

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In order to make the coats, an animal had to be killed ... without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Neither Adam nor Eve rejected the coats ... both were clothed to cover the shame of their sin ... both received remission.

Gen 3:21 is a foreshadowing of the Lord Jesus Christ ... His ultimate sacrifice for the sin of all mankind.

Gen 3:21 reveals God's mercy and grace. The sin of Adam and Eve was remitted through the shedding of blood and God did not leave Adam and Eve to wander about in fig leaves once they were removed from the garden of Eden.





nope ... "fixed it" for yourself.

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I thought you might say I fixed it for myself again 🙂 quite nice of you thanks

but again your using a theological concept, the bible doesn't say how God made the Garment of skin.

Since God can turn water into wine, you can use your imagination for anything here

There fixed it for you
 
listen

God did not decree sin.


God did not decree sin .


God did not decree sin .
Lets start with a definition:
Biblical meaning of decree
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God's decrees are seen as His sovereign will, unchangeable, and encompassing all things from eternity.

Given that definition, did God's plans for His creation include sin in the world or did His best laid plans just somehow go south on Him?
Adam was not forced in any way to sin, but God must have planned for it to happen. Nothing happens outside of God's plans, not even a sparrow falling to the ground.
 
I thought you might say I fixed it for myself again 🙂 quite nice of you thanks

but again your using a theological concept, the bible doesn't say how God made the Garment of skin.

Since God can turn water into wine, you can use your imagination for anything here
you cannot see that an animal was slain from which God made coats for Adam and Eve in the passage? ... but you can see God turning water into wine in the passage?

shrug ... if you cannot see it, you cannot see it.




Jordon said:
There fixed it for you
nope ... again, fixed it for yourself.

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Adam was not forced in any way to sin, but God must have planned for it to happen. Nothing happens outside of God's plans, not even a sparrow falling to the ground.
here's my understanding ...

"Adam was not forced in any way to sin, but God must have" known it would happen.

"Nothing happens outside of God's" knowledge, not even a sparrow falling to the ground.

God's "plan" was that in knowing Adam and Eve would sin, He devised a plan whereby mankind could be reconciled to Him.

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you cannot see that an animal was slain from which God made coats for Adam and Eve in the passage? ... but you can see God turning water into wine in the passage?

shrug ... if you cannot see it, you cannot see it.





nope ... again, fixed it for yourself.

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No theres a difference between fixing something for you than fixing it for yourself.

Fixed it for you.

So show me the passage where God slayed an animal to cover them with skin 😁
 
Lets start with a definition:
Biblical meaning of decree
-
God's decrees are seen as His sovereign will, unchangeable, and encompassing all things from eternity.

Given that definition, did God's plans for His creation include sin in the world or did His best laid plans just somehow go south on Him?
Adam was not forced in any way to sin, but God must have planned for it to happen. Nothing happens outside of God's plans, not even a sparrow falling to the ground.
decree means make a will inherent to you whether your an unbeliever or a believer.

The will his will started of with A&E being a believer by his will.

Sin is something that entered his will.
 
God decreed to have Adam's sin known and recorded for history. But, God did not decree Adam to sin.

You should learn to better master the English language, please.
Seeing as you said please

Here is a sermon by a true Calvie affiliate preaching God is also a God to the heathen, the unbeliever.

Ps this is an invitation for you to start supporting the true Calvie affiliates ,🙂

 
every time we sin we reject God's "enabling grace" ...

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

God is faithful. He provides a way for us to escape. we are weak and, at times, we behave rashly ... we do not seek the way God has provided for us to escape and we fall prey.

God also provides a way for us to again fellowship with Him ...

1 John 1:8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

.

Oh I see you were referring to believers, (y)

There are some biblical passages that people on this thread use to bolster their "soteriological theories" but the proof text they use is actually directed to believers.

Agree, believers have access to enabling grace!
 
God decreed to have Adam's sin known and recorded for history. But, God did not decree Adam to sin.

You should learn to better master the English language, please.
And if the last post wasn't enough for you to convince you how true Calvie affiliates preach and believe,

Heres one teaching how he helps those who are disobedient, (un-believing)

 
Says... the purple haired girl, whispering into the ear of a unicorn....

With a dragon tattoo on her left arm?

(Reminder!)

Your free will chose that avatar!

The truth of my post hit a nerve .. . always find ways to avoid the logical end of the "system" by deflecting in another direction.
 
No the picture you want to paint is magenta is witch,

And now your blaming her free will as your way of saying your wrong, as that is what you would rather do than repent, You are totally deluded

One word for is.

His inherent will in everyone

Hebrews 4:13
Apparently the glasses wearing monkey has something against the symbol of the Gryphon, which is very similar to how some angels are described in the Bible. It appears he doesn't like unicorns either. Unicorns are also Biblical. But it doesn't matter; we know he doesn't believe the Bible. He prefers his manipulative abusive perverse male fantasies.