Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Cameron....

If you have nothing to say?
Sometimes it is better to say nothing.

In a way?
Just the same?

You said nothing.
Gene...

You can't hear.

That's why it seems I have nothing to say.

You heard nothing.

Probably should take your own advice.
 
"trapped in doctrines of grace"? Really? That's a truly astounding statement. We are saved by grace. You are saying that that which sets us free traps us? Incredible!

She obviously has never read about genuine traps (Prov 11:6).
 
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Those of the Reformed Tradition would never tell a sinner that their salvation is dependent on them. Palmer is another liar and you swallow his bait hook, line and sinker.

LOL.. poor Rufus, calling your fellow Reformed TULIP teacher a liar cause you did not like what he wrote.

Palmer was a pastor, educator, author, and a concerned citizen. He pastored three Christian Reformed Churches in Michigan: Spring Lake (1953-1957), Ann Arbor (1957-1960), and Grandville Avenue, Grand Rapids (1964-1968). He was Instructor in Systematic Theology at Westminster Theological Seminary (1960-1964). He wrote numerous articles and pamphlets and two books, The Five Points of Calvinism (1972) and The Person and Ministry of the Holy Spirit: The Traditional Calvinist Perspective, the latter of which is published in Spanish by the Trust (El Espiritu Santo).
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Cameron....

If you have nothing to say?
Sometimes it is better to say nothing.


In a way?
Just the same?

You said nothing.

Now...avail yourself of a mirror and repeat 1,000 times for each hill upon which God owns cattle.
 
"trapped in doctrines of grace"? Really? That's a truly astounding statement. We are saved by grace. You are saying that that which sets us free traps us? Incredible!

No real grace in the "doctrines of grace" aka (TULIP, Five Point Calvinism, Canons of Dort etc., etc.,) they just use the word.
 
LOL.. poor Rufus, calling your fellow Reformed TULIP teacher a liar cause you did not like what he wrote.

Palmer was a pastor, educator, author, and a concerned citizen. He pastored three Christian Reformed Churches in Michigan: Spring Lake (1953-1957), Ann Arbor (1957-1960), and Grandville Avenue, Grand Rapids (1964-1968). He was Instructor in Systematic Theology at Westminster Theological Seminary (1960-1964). He wrote numerous articles and pamphlets and two books, The Five Points of Calvinism (1972) and The Person and Ministry of the Holy Spirit: The Traditional Calvinist Perspective, the latter of which is published in Spanish by the Trust (El Espiritu Santo).
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I call 'em the way I see 'em. No one I know of in the Reformed Faith tells a sinner that their eternal destiny is ultimately in their own hands because that would be a bald-faced lie!
 
I call 'em the way I see 'em. No one I know of in the Reformed Faith tells a sinner that their
eternal destiny is ultimately in their own hands because that would be a bald-faced lie!
She keeps saying she understands the position, but obviously she does not...
 
Gene...

You can't hear.

That's why it seems I have nothing to say.

You heard nothing.

Probably should take your own advice.

If I can't hear?
Why are you trying to tell me that then?

You even lie to your own self.
 
So after about 30k post here and 30k on the last one we have settled on.... you're a liar no you're a liar... well your a poopy head...
 
She keeps saying she understands the position, but obviously she does not...
What we do not understand is how anyone could believe your position in the light of God's nature and integrity.
All you see is sovereignty... No justice. No integrity.

To you, He is just a Divine Mob Boss who gets what he wants.
 
What we do not understand is how anyone could believe your position in the light of God's nature and integrity.
All you see is sovereignty... No justice. No integrity.

To you, He is just a Divine Mob Boss who gets what he wants.
And why shouldn't God gets what he wants. Who are you to rule over his sovereignty and will, for all mankind, and who are you to judge a lovely Christian like magenta,

And its pretty sad That's you should call God a mob boss, especially since you know that's not true,

Your problem is you alone , not magenta, or The lord she loves and lives for.

Your problem is you.

Your just a bully with a serious ego problem,
 
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2 Corinthians 4 verses 5-7 ~ We do not proclaim ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Now we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this surpassingly great power is from God and not from us.
 
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