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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So if that happens, He cannot ever see the error of his way and turn back before he dies? Is He eternally lost?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    He corrected them and said “ not for you to know at this time. This is what you will do and concern yourselves with...evangelizing the world starting In Jerusalem and working your way out from there. And He had already said make disciples of all nations.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Ok. It was a correction.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    And yes He did rebuke them, because the Gospel was to go to all nations FIRST, (before the restoration of the Kingdom to Israel)
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Are you saying that God didn’t know if Zechariah 8 would be fulfilled in the First Century or not? It will be fulfilled, but it didn’t happen in the First Century, did it?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    The Gospel was to go to the Jews first. It did. After the resurrection, Jesus said all nations now. Since God has perfect Omniscience, He never decreed that the nation of Israel would be saved in the First Century. If He had foreknown it, it would have happened. In the First century. But God...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What does the inclusion of the Gentiles have to do with that? God always intended to include the Gentiles. Always.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    All this started because through grace ordained that me saying that Jesus loses none of His sheep makes me a Calvinist. Just so we know what throughfaith is actually taking issue with, beyond the smokescreens being put up. Let’s leave it at that.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Yes. Not all historical events in a historical book are not intended to build doctrines on. They record events that happened, as well as doctrine. The events recorded are not always doctrinal statements.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    They did not understand because of their imperfection of knowledge and their anti Gentile bias at first. The Bible is infallible and perfect, but the men who God used made mistakes. ( just not when they were writing the Bible).
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What is this 1 year probation for Jews? God NEVER STOPPED saving Jews. And God always intended to save Gentiles.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Is it possible that the apostles didn’t understand Jesus words, but that Jesus actually meant what He said? After all, Paul had to rebuke Peter for error in Galatians, right?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    There was conflict between Paul and the Judaizers, John and Marcion, etc too. Would you hold that God has one program for one part of Christ’s body and a different program for another Ie. Christ is a shepherd to and only shepherds Jewish Christians but not Gentile Christians?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Only some don’t believe God keeps. At all. Or they believe He only keeps you if you have a certain bloodline.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Matthew 10 is in a different context.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Matthew 28:18-20.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Calvinists, Arminians, IFB, and just about everyone else holds that Jesus is talking about Gentiles in Matthew 10:16. Your view is an outlier.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    How about Matthew 8:10-11 Isaiah 42:6 Isaiah 49:6
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Jesus gave them new commands after the resurrection. Didn’t you get the memo? Matthew 28:18-20. Acts 1:8, Luke 24:47-48. etc.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    We are in harmony and agreement on this. Amen.