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You don’t believe God chose us before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in love. Paul said it happened before the foundation of the world You say it happens at conversion That’s a contradiction. Who should I believe?

does Ephesians 1:4 say that God chose a what or does it say He chose a who?

So He chose a plan, not people. So no foreknowledge, no predestination of us. He foreknew, predestined, called, justified, and glorified a plan?

We’ve already gone over the fact that the phrase “ in Him” in Ephesians 1:4 is not talking about our position before the foundation of the world. That was settled, what? Two or three weeks ago? Let me say this again and hope you comprehend this time. 1. Since Ephesians 1:4 is talking about...

Btw, I responded to Eph 2:11-12 NUMEROUS TIMES. God purposes in eternity and works out and actuates His purposes in time He purposed to send Christ in eternity. He sent Christ in time, for example. Foreknowledge and predestination. Easy.

So how is one chosen to be holy and blameless before they are chosen to be converted, when you cannot be holy and blameless without being converted FIRST?

By what authority do you claim Foreknowledge of all things, including the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ is not Christian.

(n) How can you be holy and blameless without being converted FIRST?

I have zero reason to think that you know what inductive reasoning is, since you just used it incorrectly. To say that my answer employs inductive reasoning means you think people can be holy and blameless before God without being converted. That would be full blown Pelagianism.

No, to say one cannot be holy and blameless before God without being converted is biblical fact.

Are you saying you can be holy and without blame WITHOUT BEING CONVERTED?!! Wow, man!!!

He still thinks I’m a Calvinist or an Arminian or something. I’m simply a conservative evangelical Christian.

So you and TF have the general epistles having absolutely no relevance to Christians until the Last Days. You believe what you want, but I’m not buying it.

:) He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world.

The context is ALL salvation language. Ephesians 1:1-14

Chosen in Him to be holy and without blame before Him in love. Salvation language.

Colossians 3:12 is only about Jewish Christians too? Wow!

So only Romans 8:33 does not include Gentile Christians? Wow, man.

So you hold that Ephesians is only applicable for Gentles and not applicable to Jewish believers? If no, then why do you hold the reverse view on 1 Peter?

So since Ephesiansc2 is addressing Gentiles, that means that Ephesians 2:8-10 is not applicable to Jews. That would be a consistent conclusion to your argument.