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After Jesus said preach the Gospel to every creature and make disciples of all nations, it wasn’t time yet?

Shepherd period.

They were going into all the world making disciples of all nations while they were preaching only to Jews? Really? They were preaching the Gospel to every creature? They didn’t even know about Gods plan to include the Gentiles, though Jesus had told them. Look at their response in acts 11...

I agree with what you say except I would say positional forgiveness in Christ. We are forgiven in Christ and baptized into His body, which is the church

So when did Jesus stop being a Shepherd? Or is He shepherd to some believers but not of others? Which is it?

Like Peter, the Jews did not understand yet the words of Christ and the prophets that the Gentiles would be included in God’s full and rich salvation Peter was corrected by God in Acts 10, and the others were corrected by Peter in Acts 11

You keep putting Matthew 15:24 into a different context. They still did not understand Jesus or the prophets, just as Peter also did not until he went to Cornelius in acts 10 You have not healed your arguments Achilles heel. Jesus is still the shepherd of His people. The flock in 1 Peter 5...

Jewish CHRISTIANS.

The problem with your argument is this...Jesus did not stop being a shepherd after the day of Pentecost. That is the Achille's Heel of your argument. Some of your premises are correct, but the conclusion is false. So the correct premises deceptively make it look like a sound argument, but the...

So the one fold is two groups of Jews. The Gentiles who would later believe are not part of that fold and are excluded. Doesn't sound right to me. Or else, Jesus never read or understood the Tanach and did not know the Gentiles would eventually be included into the commonwealth. Sounds even...

Is it possible that Jesus will lose you? No. So why the big debate about me saying Jesus will lose none of His Sheep?

You took a simple statement about Jesus not losing any of His sheep and went all over the place trying to prove that Gentiles are not part of the flock of God. Because of your anti Calvinist fervor, which you subject a non Calvinist (me) to.

That was never the point of what I said. I said Jesus will lose none of His sheep. You thought that was Calvinistic, so you went off on a giant tangent about other verses. Jesus didn't say lost sheep in John 10:16 anyways

'No, because Jesus is STILL a SHEPHERD. He will return as the Chief shepherd to reward the undershepherds 1 Peter 5:4 so is He a shepherd to some bellevers or all?

' So Israelites who are saved have a shepherd and Gentiles who are saved don't. OK, if that's what you want to believe. Because Jesus didn't ever stop being a shepherd.

You seem to put Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians under different programs. But ok. We can just disagree and move on

Ok, we know that you don’t think you need Jesus to shepherd you, so we can drop it.

what does that verse have to do with the fact that Jesus will lose none of His sheep? Is Jesus a shepherd to only Jews or nobody in your view?

We didn’t start there. We started with the verse that say Jesus loses none of His sheep. You said that was Calvinistic.

Are you a hyper dispensationalist?