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The order in Romans 8:29-30 God foreknew who He foreknew, He predestined whom He predestined, He called Whom He called, He justified Whom He justified, He glorified Predestined comes before calling.

The point of contention is that it is being stated by Kidron that predestination happens after conversion. Romans 8:29-30 refute that According to this passage, which comes first? Predestination or calling and justification?

Paul says otherwise. Romans 8:29-30

Conforming to image of Christ equals the work of sanctification being completed when we are glorified with Christ. Very salvific language. And the text indicated that predestination PRECEDES calling and justification.

So born again happens before calling and justification?

Correct. But I asked if predestination or calling came first.

The scriptural order is. Foreknew Predestined Called Justified Glorified Notice that predestination comes BEFORE calling and justification? Are you saying that you are saved before you are called and justified?

Whom God foreknew, He predestined, called, justified, and glorified. Paul said it. That settles it.

I never said I believe in double predestination.

Which comes first, predestination or calling?

So you should have said that instead of saying predestination is a lie.

Conformed to Christ’s image equals Sanctification- a progressive work that begins at conversion Glorification is when this process is completed In other words, conformed to the image of His Son is salvific language, because only believers are conformed. And according to the text...

Also you put predestination after being born again, but if you look at the order in the text, predesination comes before calling and justification. And you don’t have to be saved for God to predestine you God knew us and loved us before the foundation of the world. Foreknowledge and...

Foreknow in Romans 8:29-30 is not talking about that. If it was, that would mean everyone would get saved, because whom God foreknew, He ALSO predestined, called, justified, and glorified, and we know this is not true for every person.

Foreknowledge was a typo. Auto complete. God did not foreknow every person in the sense that Paul is using the word in this passage. Whom God foreknew, He ALSO predestined, called, justified, and glorified. Is this referring to everyone? ( rhetorical question)

Pardon the misspells, autocomplete strikes again. Your definition of foreknowledge is not correct, at least it cannot be in this context, because whom God foreknew He ALSO predestined, called, justified, and glorified.

You said predestination isn’t in the Bible, but you typed a verse that uses the word predestined. Predestined is the verbal form of the noun predestination. So you just showed that predestination is in the Bible. Secondly, God did not foreknowledge every person, because whom He foreknew, He...

Please pick an English translation and type or paste Romans 8:30

Do you believe in imputed righteousness? How is righteousness imputed? ( Romans 4:5)

You don’t have to speak Greek to translate. Only a person who never studied Greek would say that. Pick any translation and post Romans 8:30.