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Agree with what you said, except Grace is of the Triune God

Being conformed to the image of Jesus happens after salvation, correct. The predestining of that happens before you get saved, based on God foreknowing you. It’s not logical or scriptural to say that God predestined you to be conformed to His Son, (ie sanctified and glorified and raised)...

When did I say I believe in double predesination? Or Equal Ultimacy? I don’t. In this passage, foreknowledge means the kind of knowledge alluded to in Amos 3:2. Add the concept of “fore” to that type of knowledge, and that’s what the text means. It has to mean that because God does not...

I agree with all this, except the first point is a partial definition. Grace is also the Priestly Intercession and Mediation of Christ, preservation, empowerment, progressive sanctification, and the fact that God finishes the good work He begins in us, among other things.

I think it would be much better to translate it from the original languages

so acco But we were predestined before the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of His Son, which means that we will be sanctified in this life and glorified when Jesus returns, ie we will be like Him for we shall see Him as He is. So in your system, God predestined us to be...

A. God chose us according to His foreknowledge. 1 Peter 1:2 B. God’s foreknowledge is eternal C. Therefore we were chosen and predestined before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:4-5

So God knew you were going to be saved, but wasn’t sure if you would be conformed to the image of Christ as the end result? Chosen according to the foreknowledge of God?

So God didn’t know He would conform us to Christ’s image until we got saved?!!!

I said myself it’s a false dichotomy in a way

Foreknowledge and predestining are both part of the eternal purpose which God purposed before the foundation of the worlds. God didn’t purpose in piecemeal.

I put them in the same order that Paul did. Do you think God knew you would be saved without knowing and purposing to conform you to Christ’s image as well? You appear to be conflating predestination with the thing we are predestined to.

And predestined them when He foreknew them. He knew we would be saved and purposed to conform us to Christ’s image. Otherwise you have God Foreknowing us and not knowing that He would glorify us until aeons later.

Sorry. I meant to say God predestined us before we loved Him. See post 526

God knew that you would be saved ( foreknowledge) He also knew and purposed that He would conform you into the image of His Son. ( predestination) You heard the Gospel and believed. ( called) God declared you righteous on the basis of Christ’s righteousness ( justified) He will complete the...

Yes, predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ, which is the capstone of our salvation. Now since God already knew you were going to be saved in eternity past, why does He need to wait until you get saved to purpose in His heart to bless you by conforming you into the image of His Son?

God predestined us BEFORE He loved us. We weren’t even called or justified when He predestined us.

There’s folks here that rightly believe who would be saved but at the same time think that He doesnt know what He’s going to do with them until they get saved in time. Makes no sense.

See post 514 So are you saying that God knew you would be saved from eternity past, but He had not yet purposed that you should be conformed to Christ’s image? He had to wait till you got saved to know whether He would glorify you or not?

We are not talking about being conformed. We are talking about being predestined to be conformed. If God knew we were going to believe ( He did), then predestination refers to the good pleasure He purposed in Himself towards those that believe. And that purpose is an ETERNAL purpose. He...