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The way he put COVID patients in nursing homes was criminal. And about five other Democrat mayors did the same c

I as well. I think the more we know God, the more we know how far we fall short in ourselves and appreciate His grace more and more

It’s kind of tricky because God has perfect foreknowledge and has for eternity. So you cannot point to a time when in eternity when God decreed this or that. I think when they talk about infra vs Supra, it’s not talking about temporal aspects. I think these two doctrines are speculative and I...

First of all, chosen (elected) and predestinated are not exactly the same thing. The chosen ( elect)are predestined to be conformed to Christ’s image. Never does the Bible say that people are elected or predestined positively to hell, (appointed I think is used but that’s due to their own...

Yes, we are already seated in heavenly places positionally, though our bodies and members are on the earth. Colossians 3, I think.

I was referring to when he said God did. Not predestine people to go to hell as if I had said that. I do not see that taught in Bible, though some come to that conclusion by inference. Also, if you notice, he is confusing election and predestination, which are not the same thing, though they...

PS, I always gave intellectual assent to the Gospel since I was a child. Intellectual assent is not faith. So repenting of unbelief to belief does not mean a mere assent and nod of the head to the Gospel. Millions of people believe the Gospel intellectually that have no faith that pleases God...

Unbelief itself is sin. And when one truly repents, there will be a change of nature and life as a result, though there will be a struggle and a progressive aspect to overcoming sin and the flesh. For example, when I got saved I did not specifically say I would repent of this sin or that. But...

And when I say “mind” I mean the Biblical concept of mind, not our modern western understanding of it.

And certain things have to happen for one to believe. They must hear the Gospel, they must be convicted and drawn by the Holy Spirit, and they must repent, which is the result of a Spirit wrought work on the hearer of the Gospel. Repent and believe the Gospel Repentance is a change of mind...

Do you get the point now that I am not a Calvinist?;) So I am waiting for the text that God has to wait until we get saved to predestinate us (whom He foreknew ) to be conformed to the image of His Son.

I didn’t ask about the doctrine of predestination? You need to read my post again. So being predestined has nothing to do with the Doctrine of Predestination? Predestine is the verbal form of predestination. You ask why God is telling people they need to be believe if God is going to do it...

Where do you see the doctrine of predestination in John 3? This passage does not support your position. You will find that your position on predestination is taught nowhere in scripture.

God predestined that those whom He foreknew will be conformed to His Son’s image. Where is the scripture that says He has to wait until we’re saved to do that, seeing He knew beforehand who will believe and be saved? One scripture.

Yes. And Paul lists predestined before called in Romans 8:29-30. Why is everything else in order except prestinate?

God predetermined that those who will believe, all of whom He foreknew, would be conformed to the image of His Son. My point is this…nowhere in scripture does it say that God needs to wait for us to believe to foreknow us Or predestine us, seeing He foreknows us. What scripture says that we...

So are you saying that we are saved before we are called and justified, or are you saying Paul got the order wrong in Romans 8:29-30? It is clear that we are foreknown before we are predestined. And we are foreknown and called before we are justified. And we are foreknown, called, and...

Post 526.

Instead of misrepresenting my position, why not answer the question I asked you in post 568?

Let’s settle the question… when did God predestine us to be conformed to Jesus’ image? I want to make sure that has been clarified before we continue.