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    predestination vs freewill

    I’ve memorized John 1. The question i asked was “ who was the Word with in the beginning”? Are you familiar with the functions of prepositions? What is the function of the preposition“with” in John 1:1-2 and what does it tell us about the Word?
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    predestination vs freewill

    Who was the Word with in the beginning?
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    All of our sins, past, present, and future were judged at the cross. As far as when sins are forgiven, check Acts 26:18
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    if you look at the context of Romans 6-8, the answer to this question is two fold. A. We are set free from the curse of the Law, because our sins were judged at the cross. Christ having paid the debt, there is no more debt to pay. The Law has no claim on us. This also frees us from the...
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    And it is in our union with Christ and in His death and resurrection that these things are realized
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    How do you understand the phrase “ condemned sin in the flesh?” I understand it to mean that our sins were judged at the cross. Christ took the penalty of our sins, and so the sin debt is paid. At the cross, our sins were judged, so we will never be condemned but have passed from death to...
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    You quoted Romans 8:2. The verse that immediately follows tells us that the passing from the Law of sin and death to the Law of the Spirit of life is accomplished by the Work of Christ, right?
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    We are raised to spiritual life when we are baptized by the Spirit into Christ’s death and resurrection. (Romans 6). There is no other way to life than that.
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    It means that a person who is foreknown and predestined of God (elect), is dead until God raises them, even though they are foreknown and predestinated Now my argument was that a person is not alive spiritually until they are “ in Christ” Awe light countered with pretemporal election, saying...
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    John 1 does not say “ God is Jesus”. That is a highly inaccurate way of reading the text. It says “ The Word existed eternally ( pretemporally/before time) as God, and was made flesh ( in time) In the phrase the “Word was with God”, the Word (being the subject) is shown to be a distinct person...
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    The Holy Spirit indwells us and baptizes us into Christ, that is Life. We were dead in trespasses and sins. God quickened us.( made us alive) That life is communicated through our union with the Person and Work of Christ through the Work of the Spirit. There is no life apart from that union...
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    If we agree on this, I am content.
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    No. What I said is that those elect persons who have not yet believed are yet spiritually dead, (Ephesians 2:1), therefore the non temporal aspect of election has little to do with what we were discussing, at least from my perspective. “You, being dead in trespasses and sins…” He has made...
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    But I don’t know if you can call that regeneration, for only the ones who have Christ have spiritual life.
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    the reason I posted the article was to show you monergism doesn’t always conform to your view. I will make an admission. God can and has done a monergistic work upon a heart that prepares them to receive the Word.
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    Ps. The article says we plant the seed right. And then the Spirit uses that seed to regenerate, yes? What seed do we plant? Is it the written/spoken Word? Because we do not plant the Divine LOGOS, ( second person of Trinity). The Holy Spirit accomplishes that, right?
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    Did you see in the article where the writer specifically said “spoken/written” word? When did I say that the Gospel regenerates? Never My position is the same as the writer of the article, who is a monergist. The Spirit regenerates through or by means of the Gospel. Could be that day, could...
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    See, you became a new creature when you were born again. Now look at the verse. If any man is in Christ… does that mean everyone who is in Christ? Isn’t that what any means? So if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature. The aforementioned Bob, who is not regenerate yet, but will be...
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    When John said He who has the Son has life, did the people who had not yet been regenerated but would be regenerated in the future have life? Yes or no? So Bob has not been regenerated. But He will be regenerated next Wednesday. Does he possess life right now? The answer to this question...
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    Check the article again. The Spirit begets through the means or vehicle of the written or spoken Word is what he said. He did say written or spoken word. I checked myself Go ahead and continue your discussion with the other guys. Peace.