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    predestination vs freewill

    If any man is in Christ he is a new creature… When did you become a new creature?
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    predestination vs freewill

    He said in the context written/spoken word. You are using an equivocation fallacy.
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    predestination vs freewill

    In God’s act of foreknowing us, yes. Yet if we follow your answer to it’s obvious conclusion we have always had spiritual life. When you put your reply to my objection, that’s what you end up with.
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    predestination vs freewill

    My point is that my position is held by at least some monergists. I was hoping you would read it so that in the future you might not mislabel monergists as synergistic. I don’t need to defend myself.
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    predestination vs freewill

    Thank you for rescinding the label. Did you read the monergist article? You were incorrect in saying my position is synergistic. The article is from a monergistic website and it holds the same position I have stated here.
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    predestination vs freewill

    PS what I meant to say is gap of time between regeneration and hearing. Of course there is often a gap between hearing and regeneration. That was very true in my life. But I do not see a scriptural basis for a gap between regeneration and hearing, as if you can be regenerated without the Word...
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    predestination vs freewill

    Are you sure what I’ve been saying is not monergism? My words sounds a lot like this article. https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/reg_word.html
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    predestination vs freewill

    Resorting to name calling? I think we need to stop now.
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    predestination vs freewill

    I’m a religionist because I asked you “ did I say extended?” It’s a legitimate question. .
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    predestination vs freewill

    The one who does not have the Son does not have life. What kind of life are you talking about that one has without being “ in Jesus”?
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    predestination vs freewill

    If we are correct about regeneration being the importation of spiritual life, the question must be answered how a person can have spiritual life without belonging to Christ, seeing that John said “ the one who does not have the Son does not have life. You have not addressed this point.
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    predestination vs freewill

    Did I say “extended” gap?
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    predestination vs freewill

    this is the only part I disagreed with initially.
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    predestination vs freewill

    If you go back to the beginning, the part you said that I disagreed with was “ there is no way to know how much time may elapse between regeneration and beginning one’s conversion experience. Something to that effect.
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    predestination vs freewill

    If something is not clearly taught in the Bible, we should not add it. And it doesn’t need to be found in one or two verses to be CLEARLY taught in the Bible Bottom line. He who has the Son has life, he who has not the Son has not life. So if you hold that regeneration means imparted new and...
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    predestination vs freewill

    I used the word “hear” in the secondary sense. People have ears but hear not. What kind of hearing do you think that means. Secondly, the Bible states that those who have the Son have life and those that don’t have the Son do not have life. So if a person does not have the Son, there is no...
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    predestination vs freewill

    Spirit regeneration is taught in John 3, Titus 3, just off the top of my head. I think also in Jeremiah and Ezekiel Don’t forget. John said “ these things were written so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, and that believing, you might have life in His Name.”
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    predestination vs freewill

    Or I should say an hypothetical gap of time between regeneration and hearing.
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    predestination vs freewill

    Well, your first error is limiting me to one verse. I did not ask you for a verse, I said where in the Bible do you find such and such. Now we know in the Bible that there is One God. And we know from the verse in Matthew that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God. So the...
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    predestination vs freewill

    Please see the verses I provided in previous posts. that you asked for. In John 3, we read “ whoever believes in Him is not condemned, whoever believes not is condemned already…” This establishes that justification happens at the moment one believes. Now you have people receiving new life...