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Mark 1:8 I baptized you [f]with water; but He will baptize you [g]with the Holy Spirit.” Both baptizes here mean to dip, or immerse, as in full immersion.

Is that the way you talk to the God of all? No reverence?

I need a more detailed question here. Do you mean the Spirit that comes at salvation, or the Baptism of/ in the Holy Spirit?

BTW, that's not a renewed spirit showing, jus' sayin'

Romans 12:2 And(you) do not be conformed to this world, but(you) be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. Being saved isn't automatic renewal, that's why we're commanded to do so.

You think being born of the Spirit forces a change. It doesn't. That's why the Scriptures say we need to be renewed every day. A Christian doesn't automatically have the fruit of the Spirit. You think salvation is a "gimme" that requires nothing else. You're wrong & are being a false teacher...

How?

If I understand this ... you're saying those never were christians to begin with?

Do you believe you could forfeit your salvation.. No Votes: 675.0% Yes Votes: 225.0% Total voters 8 It's a shame people don't know what the scriptures say. Those who say you can't forfeit their salvation are deceived. 2 Thessalonians 2:3Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will...

You misunderstand me. Just because there's tons of fakers out there doesn't mean I dont believe in the gifts. I totally believe in them.

Philippians 3:14 New American Standard Bible I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Salvation isn't for sluggards. Neither do we need to be walking in perfection. If that were the case, nobody would go.

JohnnyMac has no PHD in anything. I used to listen to him years ago until I found out he's a cessationist. His wrote a book titled "Strange Fire": in it he openly condemns the Charismatic movement. If that's not enough, he judges the Pentecostals & charismatics as one group for creating strange...

There is but one shepherd that leads us. John 10:11“I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf snatches them and...

To have a good witness, our lives before people need to be open so that they will see our good works& glorify the Father(Matt 5:16). I would pray & ask God to make me what He wants me to be, & keep an open mind to change. Through the years I've seen introverts touched by God & come to life in...

I believe it's what in your heart that counts. Are we in a race for the prize or running in rebellion?

I haven't seen ANY commitment to good works spoken about BEFORE salvation. Not one jot. Is there good works expected by God AFTER salvation? Yes there is. Eph 2:8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [l]this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not a result of works, so...

I'm done here.

Gifts are faked all the time. Read Jeremiah. Read about the 400 prophets of Baal. NT speaks of false teachers & prophets in the last days. The word manifestation can be used positively or negatively according to how it's used in scripture.

John 16:7Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9of sin, because...

To Fundaamental, The easiest way to know if you're saved is "have you ever been convicted of your sins"? No man can come to the Father unless the Spirit draws him. Many think they are saved because they made a 'decision' for Christ, but this isn't true. One must be convicted of sin, repent of...