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Your not paying attention nehemiah. And btw, your right, Matthew 24 does not have anything to do with the so-called Rapture. Look again at the question the disciples ask Jesus Christ at Matthew 24:3, Tell us, when will these things be, (these words refer bact to vs2) then the disciples ask...

When I say nobody will be around I'm referring to the church being raptured. Secondly, let's do this by the numbers and start with Matthew 24 where Jesus is ask the question at vs3, "Tell us, when will these things be, AND WHAT WILL BE THE SIGN OF YOUR COMING, AND THE END OF THE AGE." I'm not...

How sure are you with this statement of yours? "Rapture is pretrib. Solid ,without a doubt." I have a couple of questions for you? And btw, welcome to Christian Chat. This is what 1 John 2:18 states, "Children, it is the last hour, and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many...

I see you quoted Malachi 3:1 and put in red the following: "even the messenger of the covenant." Who is the messenger of the covenant and please tell me where this covenant was made in the Old Testament. This is the only question I have for you, so let's see you do some homework. :eek: IN GOD...

Let's test your oneness cult theology mr. modalist. You said keep saying that Jesus Christ is God the Father and your accusing us of blaspheming. The following is what the Jews said at John 5:18, "For this cause (what cause noose?) the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him/Jesus, because...

Ok dem, let's get down to business here shall we? Let's forget about the Trinity and in keeping with my opening thread can you please answer the following question? Is it true that in the Bible God the Father is idenitified as God, the Son is identified as God and the Holy Spirit is identified...

Oh boy, what utter nonsense. Not only is Jesus the person of the Holy Spirit (according to you) but now your very last sentence says, "Jesus is saying He is the Father." That is classic oneness pentecostal teaching and that is why ther are considered a non-christian cult. So noose, from what...

Well, yesd and no! You did ask the question, "Who is Jesus" and then went on to quote verses praising Jesus, I get that. However, your last words were, "God the Son." I get that as well and I also agree with it. But, noose came along and challenged the "God the Son" comments and off to the...

So when Thomas declared Jesus Christ his "Lord and God" then according to you Jesus cannot be God the Son? Is that what your are telling us? And btw, Adam was not the son of God in the same way Jesus Christ is. Besides, why did the Jews at John 10:33 say the following? "The Jews answered...

Well dem, you reasoning skills are astounding when you said, "If God wanted us to use the term God the son you would find the term in the bible but nowhere in the bible is the term used." I don't find the word "Bible" in the Bible should we all just forget about reading the Bible? I don't see...

Yep, your a "Modalist" alright! mod·al·ism ˈmodlˌizəm/ noun noun: modalism 1. Theology the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature." So when Jesus CLEARLY says that He...

I agree regarding water baptism is not necessary for salvation. And these are open forums so anyone can answer if they want to. What's ironic is I started this thread about the trinity and Jesus Christ being God but here we are discussing water baptism which obviously is not the topic. Btw, what...

Why would you get banned for responding to the fallacy of an argument from silence? Btw, I see you said the following: "And another question: Do you believe water baptism is necessary to be saved?" My answer to that question is "No." There are literally thousands of reasons why some people are...

Don't assume you know what I mean. The subject at hand is Acts 2:38 and Matthew 28:19, water baptism. You brought up 1 Corinthinans 12:13 why? How does that verse support Acts 2:38 and Matthew 28:19? Remember, you said "Context in Exegesis is always the issue." IN GOD THE SON, bluto

The problem is that with you I never know what you mean. That's why I ask the question? I don't want to "assume" what you may mean. Even here instead of answering one way or another you ask me another question? "Have you ever read 1 Corinthians 12? What's your answer? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

So is this verse teaching water baptism? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

What your doing shrume is what's called in "logic" making an argument from silence. I'll give you a good example of what I mean. Show me in the book of Acts where anyone came out and said that Jesus Christ is God? Since you cannot show it does that mean that Jesus Christ is not God? I mean he is...

Ok, so you agree with me, right? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

So what? Does that mean if a person is not water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ only they are not saved? And what about Matthew 28:19, those words of Jesus some how don't count? Besides, people are saved even if they never get water baptized. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Well now look at this? Why are you complaining about what I wrote "all this stuff because it proves nothing?" Is that what you think of Gods word. I gave nothing but scripture to prove that Jesus Christ was sent and not made or created as you falsely claim. Instead of refuting what was posted...