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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    What! Where did Thomas say or write claiming that Christ denied the trinity? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Wait a minute here? Your the one that posted there are other books that should have been in the Bible and because of these other books we don't have a clear picture. So how do you know that these other books will clear up things? And since you made the statement it's up to you to prove your...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Well I'm glad you mentioned the book of Jude rlm68. Did you read what Jude vs3 states? "Beloved while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith, (now watch this rlm68) WHICH WAS ONCE...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    So let me ask you this question? Are you saying with the 66 Books we presently have that some "truth" is missing? What truth are we missing rlm68? You remind me of joseph smith the so-called mormon prophet who wrote the book of mormon to restore/reestablish the real truths of the gospel because...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    How can Jesus Christ be Gods first creation according to your understanding of Colossians 1:15? Apparently you didn't read vs16, "For (or because) by Him ALL THINGS WERE CREATED, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Fair enough! So do you personally believe that the Trinity doctrine is not Biblical? And can you please define the Trinity or give me your understanding of the Trinity? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    So you agree that Jesus Christ is the one God Almighty right? I'm trying to understand what you believe because I know that in the Bible Jesus Christ is clearly identified as God, God the Father is identified as God and the Holy Spirit is identified as God in the Bible. Do you agree with the...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    First of all there are not "three separations" within the one God. There are three "distinct" persons within the one God or Godhead. Isaiah 44:24 says the following: "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I, the Lord, am the maker of all THINGS, Stretching...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    You think so? Your name is "HeRoseFromTheDead," who rose from the dead? If you say Jesus Christ, is He not a person? And is He not God? Please read Acts 20:28. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    You really are misunderstanding what I said. You are mixing up the word "being" with the word "person" and the word "nature." The definition of "being" is the state or quality of having existence. God exist, period. Human beings exist, period. Person is defined as, "All the qualities...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Let's get one thing straight? I never said nor do I believe that Jesus Christ is "NOT" God. He is God the Son. You also made this statement, "God is one. Emmanuel was holy spirit God." Perhaps you can please explain to me Matthew 1:23, "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    The question I ask was very specific rlm68 based on the definition provided by a "staunch" oneness pentecostal I've known for years, is Jesus Christ the person of God the Father and the person of the Holy Spirit? Is He/Jesus all of them? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, james
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    I'm curious, why were you so "adamant" about the right or correct method of water baptism being the oneness pentecostal way? Secondly, the following is how a very stauch oneness I know defines God. "Jesus is the Word, the God, the flesh, the Spirit, the man, the Father, the Son, the Alpha &...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Ok rlm68, let's just say for the sake of argument your right. Does that mean that if a person is baptized your way only they are saved, and if a person is baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (the trinity way) there are not saved? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    I find it interesting you quoted John 10:30, "I and the Father are one." The verse literally reads, "I and the Father, We are one." What one ostrich? They are one in nature or essence, that is what Jesus is saying. If you read the context of the previous few verses Jesus is telling the Jews that...
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    Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?

    Excuse me, but you made the following statement. "Yeah GOD dwells in us, but not GOD the father. Not only does Jesus Christ indwell Christians but so does the Holy Spirit and God the Father. John 14L23, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father...
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    So, I'm full of anti-wof talking points, prejudice and misinformed?

    This is what lancelot accused me of when I posted to joaniemarie the heretical views of kenneth hagin who in turn passed down these views to kenneth copeland who's a real "peach" of a heretic. So lancelot, the following is what joaniemarie sain in a number of her post regarding a statement of...
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    AND SPEAKING OF WOF THIS IS REFRESHING AND REVEALING

    The following article reveals why benny hinn's nephew came to his senses and turned to God! https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/09/22/benny-hinns-nephew-renounces-prosperity-gospel/ I might as well though this into the thread about another wof prophet named kat kerr who commanded the storms to...
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    FOR ALL YOU ARIANS, UNITARIANS AND OTHERS THAT DENY JESUS CHRIST IS GOD?

    If you deny the deity of Jesus Christ then by extension you deny that He preexisted His incarnation as a man. And when I say you deny His "deity" I am not talking about Him simply being divine. I'm talking about Him being God who became flesh according to John 1:1-14. So here is the question...