Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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33,018 posts and we still cant agree whether we have free will or not. Does the disagreement come from the stubborn human will or God’s will battling satan’s will? Either way it might be time to agree to disagree.
Theres more to it than this, it's not whether we have free will it's whether or not people can agree mans free will lives in the flesh, inside there corrupt nature,

Well obviously they can't because the monkeys like to be monkeys
 
nice of you to say, Jordon ... He's working in all born again believers and eeks out every now and again if/when we get out of His way!!!

I was reminded of this verse ...

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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that would be changing your will with his will 🙂
 
Theres more to it than this, it's not whether we have free will it's whether or not people can agree mans free will lives in the flesh, inside there corrupt nature,

Well obviously they can't because the monkeys like to be monkeys
There will never be an agreement. I figure it is what it is if we have it we have it and if we don’t we don’t. Everyone coming to an agreement doesn’t change whether we do or don’t. Maybe it’s just our pride and wanting to be right.

Some better options would be instead of arguing through another 33,000 posts, which would be 550 hours at an average of 1 minute per post, we share the Gospel with someone, buy the homeless addict a pizza and listen to their story, stop by the children’s home and drop off some books or toys, or just go tell someone that we love them and give them a hug. 550 man-hours is a good bit.

Anyways. Love y’all.
 
There will never be an agreement. I figure it is what it is if we have it we have it and if we don’t we don’t. Everyone coming to an agreement doesn’t change whether we do or don’t. Maybe it’s just our pride and wanting to be right.

Some better options would be instead of arguing through another 33,000 posts, which would be 550 hours at an average of 1 minute per post, we share the Gospel with someone, buy the homeless addict a pizza and listen to their story, stop by the children’s home and drop off some books or toys, or just go tell someone that we love them and give them a hug. 550 man-hours is a good bit.

Anyways. Love y’all.
It's a nice idea but seeing as the whole Bible is generally about about a battle of wills, and I mean nearly every single verse in the Bible is about will in some way, one story isn't going to close the lid sorry.
 
It's a nice idea but seeing as the whole Bible is generally about about a battle of wills, and I mean nearly every single verse in the Bible is about will in some way, one story isn't going to close the lid sorry.
Still doesn’t change the fact that an agreement won’t change a thing. Also doesn’t change the fact that we let pride and our egos control us to the point that we spend hours arguing about something just so we can say “I was right”. Are we controlled by “self” or are we controlled by “pride”? Fruit or sin?
 
Still doesn’t change the fact that an agreement won’t change a thing. Also doesn’t change the fact that we let pride and our egos control us to the point that we spend hours arguing about something just so we can say “I was right”. Are we controlled by “self” or are we controlled by “pride”? Fruit or sin?
pride and ego is a result of mans fallen nature, mans fallen nature which includes there emotions and there will is corrupted,

So in that sense agreement will take a while in the unlearned. Hence 33000 posts.
 
pride and ego is a result of mans fallen nature, mans fallen nature which includes there emotions and there will is corrupted,

So in that sense agreement will take a while in the unlearned. Hence 33000 posts.
Well aware of where pride stems from. So which one is controlling you in the argument “yourself” or “pride”?

And do you honestly think there is possibility for agreement on something that has been argued for thousands of years? I mean sure maybe you’ll convince one or two but there will come another 20 behind those. So you spend your entire life arguing about something that doesn’t matter.
 
Still doesn’t change the fact that an agreement won’t change a thing. Also doesn’t change the fact that we let pride and our egos control us to the point that we spend hours arguing about something just so we can say “I was right”. Are we controlled by “self” or are we controlled by “pride”? Fruit or sin?
This is about rightly dividing the truth. Or wrongly maligning it.

Compromise is impossible, nor is it desirable.
 
Well aware of where pride stems from. So which one is controlling you in the argument “yourself” or “pride”?

And do you honestly think there is possibility for agreement on something that has been argued for thousands of years? I mean sure maybe you’ll convince one or two but there will come another 20 behind those. So you spend your entire life arguing about something that doesn’t matter.
my perspective on pride, is you can be proud of what God can accomplish in your pride, as for debates, well it depends on how you feel about the subject as to whether you find it's something worth debating. If we took the view point you shouldn't involve yourself on the bases that this argument can't be won, then it's obviously something your not really interested in really,

For me, this argument represents a battle between Good and evil, which is until the end.
 
my perspective on pride, is you can be proud of what God can accomplish in your pride, as for debates, well it depends on how you feel about the subject as to whether you find it's something worth debating. If we took the view point you shouldn't involve yourself on the bases that this argument can't be won, then it's obviously something your not really interested in really,

For me, this argument represents a battle between Good and evil, which is until the end.
Ok
 
Compromise is impossible, nor is it desirable.
I can see why humans have been at war with each other for thousands of years. One side trying to force the other side to believe in the same way. Don’t forget that your truth is only true because you have faith in it. It’s as true to you as Allah is to a Muslim or Waheguru is to a Sikh. Y’all have fun.
 
Because she dogmatically professes false doctrine that impugns the virtue and character of God.

Why don't you know that?
Nope your horrible treatment of magenta is out of control, because you are highly dogmatic in miss representing her, and the way in which she is expressing his word.

All you want is a free licence and excuse to rule the nest.

You don't have one where magenta is concerned, she's way nicer than you are,
 
When damage control causes more damage.
We get this.
No many people have tattoos until there saved.

And all your doing is using a picture as your excuse to justify all your horrible behaviour behaviour toward her, as all you do is dig for dirt, I wouldn't even dream of zooming in on her avatar to spot a little tiny tattoo and make such the fuss you have over it, and you've not just done it once but many times, where as nobody else has l just you and yourself

Your just being mean and you know it.
 
Because she dogmatically professes false doctrine that impugns the virtue and character of God.

Why don't you know that?

It is a pack mentality for sure.

Agree..

The air of confidence in false doctrine is really something to behold.

The fact that they cannot or will not acknowledge that they impugn the character of God demonstrates the level to which they are deceived I think, because it is so obvious.
 
I removed the monkey.
It was not worth arguing over.

What have they done?

Double, triple down.
Call people perverts, having creepy smiles, attack a person's ethnic background amongst other things
I notice Bible_Highlighter has not been around some people have become scarce because of such personal comments.:(
 
Double, triple down.
Call people perverts, having creepy smiles, attack a person's ethnic background amongst other things
I notice Bible_Highlighter has not been around some people have become scarce because of such personal comments.:(
yep perverse reverse teachings of what magenta has actually meant when you have quoted her, perverse miss representations of what she has said, perverse false witness baring of how she views faith, perverse character assassination, pretty much is what people have subject magenta to in this thread nearly every time she quotes Gods word, which has only been truth.

And you lot will not accept in the slightest she's a nice person, because your haters.