Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.
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There's no point in believing in Jesus, unless you are an elect Saint of God
Don't even know who that is. But I have heard of John Calvin and he did not write the gospel of John.
The Person I worship is the Lord Jesus Christ, as He is the one I speak to more than any other. I challenge you to go and look at your own post. John Calvin is mentioned more in them than The Lord Jesus. That is my issue with this topic. You have even said or suggested that John Calvin is authoritative, as if it is God's word. And you said that Jesus has been silent for almost 2000 years. That is untrue and unbiblical. The Word of God is Complete from GEN to REV. You are adding J. Calvin to the Canon. Redicuals when J. Calvin was a Reformwer
No, I am not assuming that at all I said Christ died for all.
OK, thank you for admitting that you don't know who Jacob Arminius is. Now I know why why you're not qualified to comment on the topic of predestination and election. John Calvin and Jacob Arminius, presented two radically different interpretations of the gospel.
John claimed that salvation is of the Lord and man has no input. Arminius claimed that salvation is attained by obeying the gospel, meaning we are saved by the works of men and not by grace alone.
Every professing Christian, holds to one of these two views. As there are no third options, as Roman Catholics believe that mother Mary, the Church and the saints and their sacraments, save them but these all amount to a man centered works based Arminius gospel.
So the Church is divided into two denominations, those who believe that we can't add anything to the finished work of Christ and those (Arminius) who believe God offered salvation, but it's up to man to earn it by good works and obedience.
You forgot He is Holy and can not look on sin. Hell is a total separation from God. That is why it is hell.
LOL, coming from you, I will take that as a compliment. I do not care what you think is qualified. They are radical, alright, and have caused more division in the body of Christ than any other.
Not every professing Christian holds to one of these two views. That is your opinion. Yes, there is a third option. Both have Biblical points, yet Pride has them fighting with the professing Christians.
The Truth is the third and only thing that matters. That is in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Soild Foundation of Truth. If one placed their faith in the death, burial, and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, they shall be saved, Romans chapter 10 :9-11 says.
I couldn't care less what John Calvin or Mr. Jacob think or say. You are bound to that, not me, and many others. I trust Jesus; you need John Calvin, but I do not.
Allow me to enlighten you of the basic facts about God.
No.1. God is omnipresent. Sorry I know it's a big word but it just means He's everywhere at the same time. Hell is somewhere so God must be there if He's everywhere.
Happy to help with any other issues you may have
Being able to be everywhere at once does not equate to being where eternal punishment is being conducted. They are suffering and there's no need for God to be with those who chose to reject Him.
So now you are able to determine from someone's works God's secret will: whether He would elect and save them based not on their works.
But there is a need for God to be there, God said He is there. I can find the scripture passage for you.
It would be like having a prison, without somebody in charge to oversee the punishment and make sure everyone is getting what they deserve.
Well from my view, I can identify a lost sinner easily because I have discernment and sound judgement. But that doesn't mean that God won't regenerate them and save them. My judgement is limited to the temporal, because I'm not omniscient.
My father was a police officer, and he did testify against a murderer who received the death penalty. But that doesn't mean that my father was 100% sure the man was a reprobate who had no hope of salvation.
He may have repented at the last moment like the thief on the cross. Only God knows who His elect are, but we still have to call a spade a spade in the meantime.
Election took place before the world was created. I don't believe the works based Arminian gospel, I reject it and embrace Calvin's grace based gospel.
The only way I can determine if a person is Reprobate, is if they blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. but I can also determine if a person is on the road to hell, by the way they live their life.
For example if someone claims to be a Christian but they live with a partner outside of marriage, that shows they are on their way to hell, because shacking up is fornication and God said fornicators would be cast into hell.
There are tons more examples of people on the road to hell, like drunkards, drug addicts, liars, thieves, gossipers and many other clear signs of false Christians. You simply can't be a Christian while you willfully sin.
I'm sure the vast majority of professing Christians will be cast into the lake of fire, Jesus said very few will go to heaven.
So if it says God relented or changed His mind, then the Bible is false? I’m amazed that you would say “I don’t care if it says it in the Bible, it’s false” Jonah 3:10. Getting caught up in “if I’m the elect or not elect” is a trap of the enemy, especially when it causes you to stumble away from the salvation message. But, if your goal is to win a purely intellectual argument about the Bible, then nothing matters.No, this is false. No such thing exists in the Bible, back to the drawing board for you