A List of nearly all the modern versions produced since 1881

ChosenbyHim · Sep 23, 2013

Hello there RecceforChrist,

thank you sir for your encouragement. I do appreciate it brother. And yes I shall rejoice in persecutions, trials, and tribulations.

22Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
- Luke 6:22-28 (KJV)

It is good to meet other Christians who understand the Bible Version Issue.

It takes spiritual discernment to see the attack on God's word that is being carried out by Satan. And the attack on God's word is the fiercest it has ever been within the last 6,000 years.

With all the corrupt, contradicting modern versions that are out there, there is so much confusion as to what God said.

We are truly living in the famine that was prophesied in Amos 8:11:

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

ChosenbyHim · Sep 23, 2013

Agricola said:

Wrong.

Again, by you making this statement only shows your ignorance sir.

Take time to actually study the issue. And stop repeating the lies you've heard from the heretical Alexandrian movement.

RedTent · Sep 23, 2013

If we followed the way we are told to handle this in the early church, we would go to the elders of the church and explain you are causing dissension and trouble in the church and you would be asked to stop it. You are making judgments of other Christians, not based on scripture or what is sin, but on your assumptions that has no scripture authorization for you to make, and you are causing arguments with your false judgments.

LT · Sep 23, 2013

How is this thread still alive? Mods kill it already. This is so destructive.

ChosenbyHim · Sep 23, 2013

Agricola said:

And why do you continue to repeat the same lie. The lie taught by the Alexandrian School of thought that says that "no Bible is the perfect Final Authority."

The Alexandrian School of "higher education" and their proud seminarians and professors have set themselves up as the final authority. They have set themselves up as the Critic of the Bible. That's why they use multiple authorities. Because they know that multiple authorities make all authority relative to the final authority of the Critic. That's what makes modern textual criticism so dangerous. Modern textual criticism and "higher learning" sets up the textual critic as a judge over the word of God. The modern textual critic becomes a god, he becomes his own final authority. Because in his vain mind, he determines how the text of the Bible should read. And then if the modern Alexandrian does not like how a certain passage of the Bible reads, then that Alexandrian will "correct" it with the "original Hebrew" and the "original Greek."

Agricola said:

Wrong again Agricola.

The Authorized King James Holy Bible is the absolute pure and perfect word of God.

The absolute Perfect Standard is the Authorized Version. It is the Absolute Perfect Standard by which all other bibles are judged.

ChosenbyHim · Sep 24, 2013

Agricola said:

I mentioned this before, Satan is very subtil. What he does is he makes small changes. And some are more subtil than others. Now there are some changes that are not doctrinal. But many of the changes made in the modern Vatican versions are doctrinal changes. Here is a clear example of a doctrinal change in the modern versions:

New International Version
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

New Living Translation
"Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed! And the fourth looks like a god!"

English Standard Version
He answered and said, “But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”

New American Standard Bible
He said, "Look! I see four men loosed and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods!"

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He exclaimed, "Look! I see four men, not tied, walking around in the fire unharmed; and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

International Standard Version
"Look!" he told them, "I see four men walking untied and unharmed in the middle of the fire, and the appearance of the fourth resembles a divine being."

NET Bible
He answered, "But I see four men, untied and walking around in the midst of the fire! No harm has come to them! And the appearance of the fourth is like that of a god!"

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The king replied, "But look, I see four men. They're untied, walking in the middle of the fire, and unharmed. The fourth one looks like a son of the gods."

Now let's look at the what the true Bible says:

King James Bible
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

The phrase "Son of God" only appears 1 time in the Old Testament. And all other occurrences of this phrase are only found in the New Testament.

When reading Daniel 3:25 in the King James Bible, we know for a fact that it was the Lord Jesus Christ who was with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace.

But if you were to read Daniel 3:25 in one of the modern versions, then you would be reading a corrupt reading of "a son of the gods."

A new Christian would not be able to tell who the fourth figure was from reading Daniel 3:25 in a modern version.

Another doctrinal change made in the Vatican versions is in John 7:8.

New International Version
You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come."

New Living Translation
You go on. I'm not going to this festival, because my time has not yet come."

English Standard Version
You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.”

New American Standard Bible
"Go up to the feast yourselves; I do not go up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come."

NET Bible
You go up to the feast yourselves. I am not going up to this feast because my time has not yet fully arrived."

A lot of the modern versions remove one word from John 7:8. The word they remove is "yet."

Hence, the modern versions which do omit this one word make our Lord Jesus Christ a liar.

Now let's see what God's true word says in John 7:8:

King James Bible
Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.

The Authorized King James Bible has the true rendering, where our Lord Jesus told His disciples: "I go not up yet unto this feast;"

See how the Authorized King James Bible exalts and honours our Lord?

Whereas the corrupt Catholic modern versions make Jesus out to be a liar in John 7:8 by removing the word "yet" from the passage.

And Agricola; what you need to understand is that Changing God's words is always wrong. God's word is not to be changed or altered in anyway. Adding to and subtracting from God's word is a very serious sin. And yet the modern Alexandrian textual critics and revisers do it all the time. Why? Because they do not fear God. And because they do not tremble at His word.

Agricola said:

There is a Bible Version Issue. Yes there is. There has always been an attack made on the word of God. And it all started back in the Garden of Eden. Read Genesis 3.

And the fact that you do not see that there is a Bible Version Issue just shows that you lack discernment sir.

ChosenbyHim · Sep 24, 2013

RedTent said:

Hi there Redtent,

well the Bible does tell us that we are to divide over doctrine.

And the Bible Version Issue is a Doctrinal Issue ma'am.

For proof that this is the case, you can read the following article which Brandplucked wrote on this very subject:

NoDoctrineChanged - Another King James Bible Believer

You see, truth divides.

Now here are some Scriptures that clearly show that we are to separate over Doctrine:

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. - 2 John 1:9-11 (KJV)

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. - 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (KJV)

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. - Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

RecceforChrist · Sep 24, 2013

Amen brother chosen. Dear lady redtent , I believe in One Word of God , Jesus Christ , and an unultered never changing always the same Word of God. He was , He is and He will always be the same I AM . He cannot change madam, and He will not change ever. Maybe you and young brother L.T wants Him to change but that will never happen. Wakeup dear sister and see the hand of satan in all these false so called bibles that is making millions for their publishers. God only wrote One Bible . Any changes , even if it is only a comma that is ommitted , is a grave sin and is inspired by satan, the father of the lie. If we followed the way of the early church and went to the elders with this problem , do you think john or paul or peter would allow you or anybody else to edit their writings? I very much doubt it dear sister. They would rather correct your error in front of the whole congregation . Allowing these corrupt translations to circulate makes you part and parcels of the sin commited.

1disciple · Sep 24, 2013

I read the first post and have to agree that newer translations have a lot of problems (not just small problems, but severe, doctrinally errant issues especially in Paul). William Whitten in is 6 Dissertations conclusively demonstrates that the Septuagint is superior to the newer Masoretic Text, which has numerous problems and omissions. Tischendorf and Tregelles gave the precursors to Westcott and Hort. The worst of them was Tischendorf, though, who was openly promoted by the Jesuit order to do what he did. His 'Sinaiticus' was discovered as a forgery even in his own day by the Greek scribe who wrote it from the Greek Orthodox Church at Mt. Athos. Yet this has all been either forgotten or covered up today.

The King James isn't bad, because at least they understood that in some areas they were going to have to take readings from the Septuagint because it was older and superior to even the later Hebrew copies. You'll notice that even Jerome, while using the Masoretic, keeps his Septuagint handy. The Dead Sea scrolls are closest to the Septuagint. The Samaritan Pentateuch is the closest to the original documents prepared by Ezra the Scribe after the Babylonian captivity (Gen. - II Kings).

This is why I prefer to read the Septuagint and usually prefer to simply read the Codex Alexandrinus when reading the New Testament because I hold Sinaiticus to be a forgery and Vaticanus to have simply received to many Vatican corrections over the years to be even nominally called a 4th century manuscript. It may have started out as a 4th century manuscript, but it certainly isn't today. Furthermore, the Kings James today isn't even the King James. They took out the Maccabees from the 1611 King James, which was a huge mistake as so much history is missing.

I don't know why people think the King James is an evangelical translation. It is and always was an Anglo-Catholic/Anglican translation. That why it translate 'Easter' where it should translate 'Passover'. But the King James is still probably the least incorrect English translation, even in the realm of textual criticism. I don't read English translations much at all any more. I just use my Septuagint and usually the 1624 Elzevir Textus Receptus, which is practically identical to the King James NT source text. I never used to think the text critical issues were important until I began realizing how big the scam really was in the 1800s. And it was big and it wasn't by accident.

ChosenbyHim · Sep 25, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

No that is just your opinion.

The word "Verily" simply means in truth and in fact. With Great confidence and certainty.

eternally-gratefull said:

Okay and what exactly is your point there EG?

There is still fighting going on now. And for the most part it is simply because a lot of the churches will not rightly divide the word of truth.

eternally-gratefull said:

Well if you want to call it a huge change then that is your prerogative.

And again, I understand that the English language has changed through time. I know about that. What I am asking you specifically though is has the English language changed so much from 1881 up until now (2013) that it would warrant and justify the 250+ English translations which are currently on the market?

The cause for much of the division also is the fact that all these modern versions all say different things and contradict in hundreds if not thousands of places.

eternally-gratefull said:

Yes they do need to do this, because if they are reading from an NIV, ESV, or some other corrupt Vatican versions then they are not getting the whole truth.

The NIV and other modern versions are spiritual poison. The spirit of antichrist is all over the modern Vatica versions.

eternally-gratefull said:

Does not matter. It still doe not change the fact that they are using a corrupt version. What they are basically using are Satanic counterfeits.

Paul said: A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. (Gal. 5:9).

And there is a lot of leaven and doctrinal error in the modern versions. Some more subtil than the other.

eternally-gratefull said:

What you should do EG, is go and get that King James Bible and simply ask God to give you understanding of His holy word. Trust in His power and ability to open your eyes to His pure and holy word.

eternally-gratefull said:

If you went back to the Authorized King James Holy Bible, it would help you a lot!! Preaching and Dispensational teaching of the Authorized Version brings clarity, understanding and true unity. That's why the churches a hundred and two hundred years ago were so strong. Because they all believed in One Book. And they studied one Book.

And they did not have all of the mass confusion and doubt that we have today as a result of the corrupt fruit of Westcott and Hort and their perverted and corrupt Greek text. In Christianity, things really started to fall apart ever since 1881. The apostasy, confusion and wickedness of the modern churches and their lukewarmness can all be traced back to the Revised Version of 1881.

And no, you would not lose people if you preached from the King James Bible in your sermons. You would be helping them a great deal!

For one, you would not be giving them the spiritual poison that comes from an NIV, ESV, NASB, etc.

And two, you would be using the Right Bible. You would be using the Book which has brought forth the greatest missionary movement this Earth has ever seen. A Book that has produced more spiritual fruit than any other. And a Book which can be traced all the way back to the Bible believing Christians (Valdese, Waldenses) of the early centuries who stood for the word of God and who would not bow down to the corrupt Roman Catholic church and the Papacy.

A Book that can trace back to the Christian Martyrs who were tortured and killed by the Papacy and Roman Catholic church because they would not accept the heretical teachings of the Catholic church. The Waldenses recognized only the Bible as their Final Authority and they only went to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins.

And by the way, the persecution against the Waldenses that came from the Papacy lasted over a thousand years.

eternally-gratefull said:

Yes they do reject the authority of the word of God.

It is like I said earlier, multiple authorities are set up so that all authority becomes relative and subject to the final authority of the critic of the Bible.

And what you should do is visit at least 5 of those churches which you know of and have attended & visited, and go up to their pastor and politely ask him if he believes the bible which he preaches from. Ask him whether or not he believes that the bible he preaches from is the perfect and inerrant word of God. And if he tells you no. Then ask him whether or not he believes that the Authorized King James Holy Bible is the perfect and inerrant word of God, and if he tells you no again. Then ask him if he believes that ANY Bible is the pure, perfect and inerrant word of God. And then see how he responds.

If you find out that he does not believe that any Bible is the perfect and inerrant words of God, well then that pastor is a Bible Agnostic and he is his own final authority. And because he is his own final authority, he has rejected the word of God as the Final Authority.

You see Eg, these days, anybody can profess to believe the Bible. But once you put them into a corner and ask them which Bible it is that they believe is the pure and inerrant word of God, then they cannot give you a straight forward answer.

eternally-gratefull said:

The Gospel has always been very important. But the most important issue is the Bible Version Issue because it is about God's Final Written Authority. It is about the words of Almighty God. And the moment you have some Seminarian or "educated" professor saying "that the King James Bible is in error here and here and over here" and so forth, what you have is a man who is producing apostates who reject and deny the inerrancy of God's pure word, the holy Scriptures.

And if there are errors in the word of God, then what makes you think there are not errors in the Gospel also?

You see, that is the issue. That is why the Bible Version Issue is the most important issue. Because if you get people to lose their faith in the Bible, that is the beginning of apostasy. And if the lost world, the lost people out there become convinced that the Bible is just another book and that it has errors in it, and that its text is not trustworthy or reliable, then those people will also not have faith to believe the Gospel, hence, those people will die and go straight to Hell.

And if you want to see the rotten fruit of the Alexandrian philosophy and modern textual criticism, then watch the video given below and see how two men who went to their seminaries were trained in Alexandrian Textual Criticism and had their faith destroyed in the Bible, and as a result, when they graduated from their seminaries they left Christianity altogether and became Muslims.

[video=youtube;iVgz03agylM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVgz03agylM[/video]

There is no telling how many men and women Westcott and Hort led straight to Hell with their wicked and satanic philosophy.

eternally-gratefull said:

Do you even know what you are talking about EG?

You seem to be suggesting that the Siniaiticus and Vaticanus are the oldest mansucripts. But they are not.

Siniaticus alone was corrected 15,000 times! And the majority of these corrections were made somewhere in the seventh century. That's not all though. Some of the corrections were made in the twelfth century.

Plus, there was a manuscript of the New Testament found that dates all the way back to 66 A.D. and it agrees with the received text.

So this manuscript was around long before the Siniaiticus and Vaticanus manuscripts were written. In fact, nearly 280 years.

So much for the "oldest and best" argument for the Siniaticus and Vaticanus!

And for more information on the fickle nature and character of the Siniaticus and Vaticanus manuscripts, you can check out a good and informative article which Brandplucked wrote regarding these two manuscripts:

Oldest and Best Mss? - Another King James Bible Believer

eternally-gratefull said:

It's not propaganda. It is a laying out of the facts sir.

Well yes we are to study the issue for ourselves, and that also includes reading the works of good, godly, Bible believing men who have stood for the preserved word of God. Men like Dean Burgon, Billy Sunday, John Wesley, George Whitfield, J. Frank Norris, and so forth.

eternally-gratefull said:

Well have you taken the time to compare them?

Are you aware that there are at least 35,000 changes that the NASB makes to the Biblical text?

eternally-gratefull said:

If they are preaching from a modern versions, then they are preaching another Jesus. The Jesus of the modern versions is not God. The Jesus in the modern versions is a "son of the gods" in Daniel 3:25.

EG, is it really the King James Bible believers who are sowing discord among the brethren? Or is it the Christians who advocate for the modern and conflicting versions which are based on corrupt Greek texts of Siniaticus and Vaticanus?

We King James Bible believers are not the ones causing the damage. It is the Alexandrians who are causing the damage by sowing Doctrinal error into the body of Christ.

eternally-gratefull said:

The apostasy that has taken place in many churches today is clear and evident EG. The apostasy cannot be denied. "Women" preachers, "Christian" rock and roll in worship services, a growing rejection of Biblical Separation, and a growing and ever increasing amount of Biblical illiteracy in a time where there more translations of the Bible into English than ever before.

The falling away and apostasy which the Bible prophesied of, has come and is getting worse and worse. And if you have any spiritual discernment sir, than you know that what I am saying and telling you is true.

eternally-gratefull said:

Afraid of what sir?

eternally-gratefull said:

Why the question marks? What are you unsure of?

eternally-gratefull said:

Well remember EG, they had the Old Latin Bible back then. And it was in existence since 157 to 190 A.D.

Do a study on the Pre-Waldensian church and see that they had their own ancient version that was translated from the Antiochan text.

eternally-gratefull said:

God kept His word and He preserved His word. And the English line of Reformation Bibles (Wycliffe, Tyndale, Great, Bishop's, Geneva) all leading up to the perfection of the Authorized King James Holy Bible.

God simply purified His word. And He purified it seven times. just as Psalm 12 says:

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. - Psalm 12:6-7 (Holy Bible)

eternally-gratefull said:

Okay and where is the "original" language?

And why would we need to study the original language when we have God's perfect and inerrant word already?

Just get yourself a King James Bible. That's all you need.

Now if you want to study different languages, then go ahead. But I am just letting you know that it is not necessary.

And again, as I said before, I understand that the English language has gone through several changes. But what I am specifically asking you, is has the English langue changed so much from 1881 up until now (2013) that it would warrant or justify the 250+ English translations that are currently on the market?

Keep in mind too, that for a new version to get a copyright, there has to be enough changes made in its text for it to be considered an original work.

Praus · Sep 25, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

The Preface is not infallible according to Brandplucked. If the Authorized Version is infallible then we'll just have to accept that the Preface isn't really part of the Authorized Version.

brandplucked said:

Praus · Sep 25, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

This is another one of your satanic teachings.

The word of the LORD are like silver that has already been purified seven times.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Praus · Sep 25, 2013

Agricola said:

The very beginning was not in 1611 or 1759, it was 1930, and it came out of Seventh Day Adventism, not Christianity.

I love studying the KJV--Oxford, Cambridge, and 1611--and I feel like KJV-onlyism makes the KJV look bad.

Praus said:

ChosenbyHim · Sep 27, 2013

Praus said:

Praus, when did I ever say that the Preface was Infallible?

It is the very text of the Authorized King James Holy Bible that is inerrant and infallible.

I simply asked EG if he had read the Preface of The Translators To The Reader.

Since it seemed as though he was suggesting that the English language has changed so much as to the point that it would warrant or justify the 250+ English translatios which are currently on the market.

If one would read the Preface, then they will know that while the English Language has gone through several changes, it is still no where near the amount of change that the modern version advocates are suggesting and insinuating.

And yes; Brandplucked is right. It is the Text of the King James Holy Bible that is perfect and infallible.

1disciple · Sep 27, 2013

The KJV is not infallible. It has clerical errors, a handfull of outright mistranslations and some Church of England bias (a bit more than a little Anglican bias at that). There is no such thing as an infallible Biblical text. They all have clerical/scribal errors in them. The Septuagint has some translation issues here and there and even the Masoretic text (which many today set to be the de facto standard, though it is not) has numerous errors that can be proven to be so. We can know today, though real textual criticism, that the Masoretes flat took out some passages that did not fit with their view and, which in the Septuagint, had been used by the Christians to point to Christ.

There is a real discipline of textual criticism that is necessary for arriving at the best reliable text that is closest to the originals. Westcott and Hort and their offspring are not the only text critics around either.

But the superstition that the KJV is completely free from error is an absurdity that ultimately turns people away form Bible reading.

eternally-gratefull · Sep 27, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

cough cough.. Wrong

And this would prove what?

Nope. Just saying the english has changed so much to make the kjv obsolite and hard to read and understand for the NORMAL english reader.

And this proves what?

Again, Go to a college and say, "verily Verily I say unto you" and see how many looks you get becaise people have not the utter clue as to what you are saying, and probably think you are babbling some nonsense and walk away

And that would be wrong.

ps. You still have not answered. Why did God go from the time the so called origional manustrips disapearred (God knows where moses origional writing are, they probably dissapeared LONG before Jesus even arrived on the scene) until the advent of the KJV Bible?? Why did God leave so many people for hundreds, even thousands of years without his word??

ChosenbyHim · Sep 27, 2013

Praus said:

Praus, it is part of the Context.

There is no getting around that.

12 Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.
2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
3 The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?
5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.
6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted. - Psalm 12:1-8 (KJV)

God has kept His pure words.

And the purified line of English Bibles that God authorized can be seen as follows:

Tyndale's, Matthew's, Coverdale's, The Great Bible, The Geneva Bible, The Bishops' Bible and The Authorized King James Bible.

ChosenbyHim · Sep 27, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

Again Eg, keep in mind that in the very early centuries of the NT Church, they had the Old Latin copies and the Waldensian bibles. So therefore, the word of God was available in those early times of the New Testament Church. Remember EG, God promised to preserve and keep His pure words (See Psalm 12).

eternally-gratefull said:

EG, God did not miss anything. He knows everything that is going on.

The LORD God Almighty does not sleep, nor does he take naps. Read Psalm 121.

And again, the seven purifications of God's word in the English language are the following:

- Tyndale's

- Matthew's

- Coverdale's

- The Great Bible

- The Geneva Bible

- The Bishops' Bible

- The Authorized King James Bible.

eternally-gratefull said:

Well I know what God I serve. I serve the God of the Bible. A God who is faithful and true. A God who is not the author of confusion, but of peace. A God who has kept His Promise to keep and preserve His pure words. And a God who has given us His perfect, infallible and inerrant word.

eternally-gratefull · Sep 27, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

Oh so now you are back tracking. First it was the only inspired word. And asked us to get you the inspired manuscripts. Now your saying all these others were inspired also? Are they not still around? Or did God just let them Go. Don't ya feel sorry for the non english speaking people who have no bible? I guess you will change your story again and say the have their own inspired word.

You also said the origional texts dissipated. Now when you are shown even the text Jesus read and taught out of was not origional your going to say that does not matter?

Yes I do not know he would keep his word. he has, Why do you think he gave us pastors and teachers? because he knew in other languages, His word would not be pure.

No argiment there. And he sees what you are doing, and the massive damage you are doing to his church, causing separation. judgment and division. Do you think God is happy with that?

Ah, so again I ask. What inspired words came for the 1300 years before these. And why are these not still around? or are they?? And do they all say the exact same thing? I mean why make new bibles when the first one was purely inspired?? Your not thinking my friend!

So do I. And you do not believe this, YOU are causing confusion and division. You want a child today to study a bible they can not possibly comprehend just because you claim it is infallible.

Oh ye of little faith!

directline2iam · Sep 27, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

Since 1881, the time when Westcott and Hort composed their own Greek New Testament, there has been over 250+ English bible versions produced.

Directly below is a list of nearly all of them. And as your reading through this list, just ask yourself three basic questions:

1) Has the English Language really changed this much?

2) Do all of these modern conflicting translations promote unity or do they promote and cause division in the Body of Christ?

3) And also, Do all of these modern, contradicting English bible versions help to build belief and faith in the Holy Bible as the inerrant and infallible word of God? Or do they cause doubt and unbelief in the inerrancy of the Holy Bible?

1881 Revised Version.

1881 Jewish Family Bible (OT); Michael Friedlander.

1881 The New Testament Englished; William Crickmer.

1883 The New Testament; Cortes Jackson.

1884 The Englishman’s Bible; Thomas Newberry. [AV]

1885 The Teaching and Acts of Jesus of Nazareth and His Apostles (NT); W.D. Dillard.

1885 The New Covenant (NT); John Hanson.

1885 A New Translation; John Darby.

1885 A translation of the Old Testament Scriptures from the original Hebrew; Helen Spurrell.

1893 Scriptures, Hebrew and Christian; John Peters and Edward Bartlett.

1892 Biblia Innocentium; John Mackail.

1897 The New Testament Emphasized; Horace Morrow.

1897 The New Dispensation (NT); Robert Weekes.

1898 American Revised Version.

1898 The Woman’s Bible.

1901 The Historical New Testament, James Moffatt.

1901 American Standard Version

1901 The Modem American Bible; Frank Ballentine

1902 Translation of the New Testament from the Original Greek; W.B. Godbey.

1902 The Testament of our Lord (NT); James Cooper and A.J. MacLean.

1902 Twentieth Century New Testament.

1902 The Emphasized Bible; Joseph Rotherham.

1903 The Holy Bible: Marginal Readings Adopted.

1903 The New Testament in Modern Speech; Richard Wey¬mouth.

1903 The Holy Bible in Modern English; Ferrar Fenton.

1904 The Corrected English New Testament; Samuel Lloyd.

1904 The New Testament Revised and Translated; Adolphus Worrell.

1906 The New Testament; Thomas Lindsay.

1907 The Modern Reader’s Bible; Richard Moulton.

1908 The Holy Bible for Daily Reading; J.W. Genders.

1909 The University New Testament; S. Townsend Weaver.

1909 The Shorter Bible.

1909 The Bible in Modem English (NT); Frank Ballentine

1910 The Restored New Testament; James Pryse.

1911 The 1911 Tercentenary Commemoration Bible.

1912 The Holy Bible: An Improved Edition.

1913 The Literary Man’s New Testament, W.L. Courtney.

1913 The New Testament; Edward Clarke

1913 Westminster Version of the Sacred Scriptures (WVSS)

1914 The New Covenant (NT); Edward Cunnington.

1914 The New Testament from the Greek text as established by Bible Numerics; Ivan Panin.

1916 The Historical Bible; Charles Kent.

1916 The Twenty-Four Books of the Old Testament; Alexander Harkavy.

1917 The Holy Scriptures According to the Masoretic Text (OT).

1918 The New Testament; Henry Anderson.

19l9 The Messages of the Bible; Frank Sanders and Charles Kent.

1919 The Adelphi New Testament; E.E. Cunnington.

1921 A Plain Translation of the New Testament; By a student.

1921 The Shorter Bible.

1922 The Children’s Bible; Henry Sherman and Charles Kent.

1922 A Plainer Bible (NT); Frank Ballentine.

1923 Simplified New Testament; D.A. Sommer.

1923 The Riverside New Testament; William Ballantine.

1924 Centenary Translation of the New Testament; Helen Montgomery.

1924 The Everyday Bible; Charles Sheldon.

1924 The Older Children’s Bible.

1924 The New Covenant: Labor Determinative Version (NT).

1925 The People’s New Covenant (NT); Arthur Overbury.

1926 The Holy Bible: A New Translation (NT); James Moffatt.

1926 A New Translation (by James Moffatt) (MNT)

1926 Concordant Version (NT); A.E. Knoch.

1926 The Western New Testament; E.E. Cunningtan.

1927 The Student’s Old Testament; Charles Kent.

1928 The Student’s Greek Testament; A. Hamilton.

1928 The Christian’s Bible: New Testament; George LeFevre.

1928 The Living Bible; Bolton Hall.

1928 The Authentic Literature of Israel (CT); Elizabeth Czarnomska.

1928 The Cambridge Shorter Bible.

1929 The New Testament in blank verse; George Wolff

1929 A Homiletical and Exegetical Version of the Bible; Charles MacLean.

1931 The Complete Bible: An American Translation; J.M. Smith and Edgar Goodspeed.

1933 Lamsa Bible (by George Lamsa) (Lamsa)

1933 Short Bible; J.M. Smith and Edgar Goodspeed.

1934 The Documents of the New Testament; G.W. Wade.

1934 Old Testament in Colloquial English.

1934 The Child’s Story Bible; Catherine Vos.

1935 The Westminster Version of the Sacred Scriptures (NT)

1935 An American Translation (by Smith and Goodspeed|) (AAT)

1935 The New Testament; Fernand Faivre.

1936 The West China Union University Version (NT).

1936 The Aldine Bible: The New Testament; M.R. James and Delia Lyttelton.

1936 The Bible Designed to be Read as Living Literature; Ernest Bates.

1937 The New Testament in the Language of the People; Charles B. Williams.

1937 The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ; Francis Spencer.

1937 The New Testament critically reconstructed and retranslated; William Martin.

1937 The New Testament A New Translation and Explanation; Johannes Greber.

1938 The Book of Books (NT); R. Mercer Wilson.

1938 The New Testament: A Translation; Clementson.

1939 The Book of Life (NT); Zed Copp.

1939 The New Testament Shortened; W.K. Clarke.

1940 The Bible (A Condensed Version); Howard Welsch.

1941 The Confraternity Version (NT)

1941 Spencer New Testament (SPC)

1945 New Testament: A Translation, Harmony and Annota¬tions; Erwin Stringfellow.

1946 Pathways through the Bible (OT); Mortimer Cohen.

1947 The New Testament; George Swann.

1948 The Holy Bible Adapted for Young Christians.

1948 The Letchworth Version in Modern English; T.F. Ford and RE. Ford.

1949 The Bible in Basic English.

1950 New World Translation (NWT)

1950 The New Testament of our Messiah and Saviour Yahshua, A.B. Traina.

1950 The Dartmouth Bible.

1950 The Holy Bible for Young Readers (NT); J.W. Mackail.

1951 The Authentic Version (NT).

1951 Bible in Brief; Peter Ross.

1951 The Shorter Oxford Bible.

1951 The New Testament in Modern English Olaf Norlie.

1952 The New Testament: A New Translation in Plain English. Charles K. Williams.

1952 Olive Pell Bible; Olive Bible.

1952 The Living Bible; Robert Ballou.

1952 Revised Standard Version.

1953 The New Testament: A New, Independent, Individual Translation; George Moore.

1954 The New Testament Rendered From the Original Greek; James Kleist and Joseph Lilly.

1954 The New Testament in Cadenced Form; Morton Bradley.

1954 The Septuagint Bible (OT); C.A. Muses.

1955 The Authentic New Testament; Hugh Schonfield.

1955 The Holy Bible: A Translation from the Latin Vulgate; Ronald Knox.

1955 The Compact Bible; Margaret Nicholson.

1955 The Clarified New Testament; P.G. Parker.

1956 The Bible for Family Reading; Joseph Gaer and Chester McCown.

1956 Kleist-Lilly New Testament (KLNT)

1957 The Holy Bible from Ancient Manuscripts; George Lamsa.

1958 The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed; James Tomanek.

1958 A Beginner’s Bible; Margherita Fanchiotti.

1958 Berkeley Version (BV)

1958 The New Testament in Modern English; J.B. Phillips.

1958 The Self-Interpreting; Ashley Johnson.

1959 The Holy Bible: The Berkeley Version in Modern English; Gerrit Verkuyl.

1960 The Children’s King James Bible: New Testament; Jay Green.

1960 A Critical Emphatic Paraphrase of the New Testament; Vincent Roth.

1961 The New Testament of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ; Fan Noli.

1961 New World Translation.

1961 The New Testament: An Expanded Translation; Kenneth Wuest.

1961 The Jesus People New Testament; Olaf Norlie.

1961 Simplified New Testament in Plain English; Olaf Norlie.

1962 Teen-age Version; Jay Green.

1962 Modem King James Version; Jay Green.

1962 The Children’s Version of the Holy Bible; Jay Green.

1963 The Holy Name Bible; A.B. Traina.

1963 The New Testament in the Language of Today; William Beck.

1965 The Amplified Bible.

1965 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSV-CE)

1966 Jerusalem Bible (JB)

1966 The Bible in Simplified English.

1966 The Living Scriptures; Jay Green.

1966 Knoch Concordant Literal Version (by Adolph Ernst Knoch)

1967 Bible for Young Christians (NT); AM. Cocaqnac and Rosemary Haughton.

1967 New World: The Heart of the New Testament in Plain English; Alan Dale.

1967 New Scofleld Reference Bible.

1967 The Christ Emphasis New Testament; Edward Craddock.

1969 The New Testament: A New Translation; William Barclay.

1969 The Children’s New Testament; Gleason Ledyard.

1969 Modern Language Bible; Gerrit Verkuyl.

1969 The Bible Reader.

1970 New American Bible.

1970 King James II Version; Jay Green.

1970 New Testament in Shorter Form.

1970 New English Bible (NEB)

1970 The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible.

1971 New American Standard Bible (NAB)

1971 The Living Bible; Kenneth Taylor.

1971 The Story Bible (TSB)

1972 The New Testament in Modem English; J.B Phillips.

1972 The Bible in Living English; Steven Byington.

1973 A Child’s Bible; Anne Edwards and Shirley Steen.

1973 The Translator’s New Testament.

1973 Cotton Patch Version (NT); Clarence Jordan.

1973 Common Bible.

1973 The Better Version of the New Testament; Chester Estes.

1974 The New Testament in Everyday English; Do Klingen¬smith.

1975 The Word Made Fresh; Andrew Edington.

1976 An American Translation; William Beck.

1976 The Concise Jewish Bible (OT); Philip Birnbaum.

1976 Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (SNB)

1976 Good News Bible (GNB)

1977 The Jerusalem Bible (OT); Harold Fisch.

1977 The Christian Counselor’s New Testament; Jay Adams.

1977 The Holy Bible for Children; Allan Johsmann.

1978 Holy Name Bible.

1978 New International Version.

1978 Simple English Bible (NT).

1979 The New Testament in Everyday English; Jay Adams.

1980 The Distilled Bible: New Testament; Roy Greenhill.

1980 Simple English Bible (Dr Stanley Morris) (SEB)

1981 The Sacred Scriptures.

1981 The Compact Bible (NT); Pat Excel.

1982 The Readers Digest Bible.

1982 The New Testament; Richard Lattimore.

1982 New King James Version.

1984 The New Accurate Translation (NT); Julian Anderson.

1985 Tanakh: The Holy Scriptures (OT).

1985 The Recovery Version (NT)

1985 New Jerusalem Bible (NJB)

1985 Original New Testament; Hugh Schonfield.

1985 Green’s Literal Translation (by Jay P. Green) (LITV)

1986 International Children’s Bible.

1986 Christian Community Bible (CCB)

1986 New Life Version; Gleason Ledyard.

1987 Easy to Read Version.

1987 A Literal Translation of the Bible; Jay Green.

1987 English Version for Deaf.

1987 New Century Version.

1988 Revised New Testament: New American Bible.

1988 New Evangelical Translation.

1988 Christian Community Bible.

1988 The New Testament; Hugo McCord

1989 God’s New Covenant (NT); Heinz Cassirer.

1989 New Revised Standard Version.

1989 Jewish New Testament; David Stern.

1989 Revised English Bible (REB)

1989 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSV-CE)

1990 The New Translation (NT).

1990 Simplified Living Bible.

1990 Modern King James Version; Jay Green.

1991 21st Century King James Version (NT).

1991 Contemporary English Version (NT).

1991 New Century Version (NCV)

1993 Black Bible Chronicles

1994 The Clear Word Bible (Jack J. Blanco) paraphrase

1994 21st Century King James Version

1995 Contemporary English Version (CEV)

1995 Anointed Standard Version

1995 God’s Word (GW)

1996 ArtScroll Tanakh

1996 New International Reader’s Version (NIrV )

1996 New International Version Inclusive Language Edition (NIVI)

1996 New Living Translation (NLT)

1998 Third Millennium Bible (TMB)

1998 The Scriptures ’98 Version (TS98)

1999 American King James Version (Michael Peter (Stone) Engelbrite)

1999 Recovery Version (RcV)

2000 King James 2000 Version (KJ2000) (Robert A. Couric)

2000 Sacred Scriptures, Family of Yah Edition (SSFOY)

2001 Easy Reading Edition Sword Bible KJV

2001 Analytical-Literal Translation Modern English (Gary F. Zeolla)

2001 EasyEnglish Bible (EEB)

2002 The Message (MSG) (Eugene H. Peterson) paraphrase

2003 The Evidence Bible, King James Version (Ray Comfort)

2003 Apostolic Bible Polyglot (ABP)

2003 A Voice In The Wilderness Holy Scriptures (VW)

2003 The Word of Yahweh (TWOY)

2004 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

2004 The Apostles’ Bible (AB)

2005 The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha (David Norton)

2005 Today’s New International Version (TNIV)

2005 The Complete Apostles’ Bible (CAB)

2005 A Conservative Version (NT only in print OT & NT Net versions) (ACV)

2006 AV7 (New Authorized Version)

2006-11. The Manga Bible

2007 Study New Testament for Lesbian, Gays, Bi, and Transgender (Ann Nyland)

2007 New English Translation of the Septuagint (NETS)

2007 Orthodox Study Bible (OSB)

2009 Catholic Public Domain Version (CPDV)

2010 The Work of God’s Children Illustrated Bible (WGCIB)

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