A List of nearly all the modern versions produced since 1881

[ChosenbyHim]

[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]Yes. The language we have today is a far cry of the language used to in the 1600's. Unless one is schooled in the language of the old english people. They would be lost in reading their books. It is like a whole different language. Anyone who thinks othewise is just lieing to themselves.

Have you read the Translators to the Readers in the Preface of the Authorized Version?

Again; the issue is not whether or not the English language has went through several changes, because it indeed has. The real issue is has it changed so much to warrant the 250+ English translations that we currently have today on the market?

In fact, just go back to the year of 1881. Has the English language changed so much from 1881 to 2013 that there somehow was a need to be produce so many different English modern versions and translations?

[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]While there are quite a few bad translations, for the most part. Many churches have used many versions and are being led by God, Winning people to Christ.

Well it is good to hear that they are winning people to Christ.

But they also need to deal with the Bible Version Issue and if they are ignorant about it, then they should learn the issue and make the right decision to get back to the true word of God, which is the Authorized King James Version.

Doing the work of Christ. and have much important things to think about than which version of scripture to use. The only division caused is by the KJV only CULT which is trying to make a division in the church by saying they have the only inspired word. and all others are lacking.

The Bible Version Issue is one of the most important issues facing the church today. It is an issue over the absolute Final Authority.

And what we King James Bible believers do is share facts and documented evidence that clearly shows the corruptions of the modern versions and the corrupt Nestle Aland's Greek text, as well as the corrupt Siniaticus and Vaticanus Greek texts which the modern versions are all based on. And truth divides. As Christians we are to divide over Doctrinal matters. And the Bible Version Issue is indeed a doctrinal matter and issue.

1. Most do not contradict. they just say the same things in different ways.

That is incorrect. Many of them contradict.

To see an examle of this, here is a link to an article which Brandplucked wrote showing how several of the modern versions reject the Hebrew Texts, and how they do so in different places:

NIV, NASB reject Hebrew - Another King James Bible Believer

2. The only ones causing doubt and belief in the word of God is KJV onlyers. because the rest of us have to chasten and rebuke their lies. and in doing so cause others to wonder if any bible is really correct.

Wrong again.

It is the Bible believers that have to rebuke you Alexandrians who deny perfect and Final Authority. We King James Bible believers stand for and defend the Authority of one Book. Therefore we are working to bring about true unity.

You people who claim that "no Bible is perfect" don't have a Final Authority to submit to.


You have made your feelings and preferences your god. And in essence your own intellect and preferences have become your final authority.


And it is the 250+ modern, conflicting bible translations that are causing more and more Christians to no longer believe in the word of God.

The modern versions are sowing confusion and doubt into the body of Christ.

3. According to you (I have said this many times with NO RESPONSE) there was no bible for almost 1600 years. why would God do this?

No Bible for 1600 years???


What about the Geneva Bible?

What about the Bishop's Bible?

Or the Great Bible?

And Tyndale's New Testament?

And how about Wycliffe's Bible?


Remember the words of the LORD were and are purified seven times. (Psalm 12).

4. The english language, whether old or new, is an inherently bad language. if we would put an origional autograph of the NT and an origional KJV and modern day english bible in front of a Someone who is fluent in both koine greek and modern english and have them study all of them, and give us their opinion. they would most likely give the following opinions.

1. The greek text is poetic. Easy to understand, and not confusing at the least.
2. The modern day english texts are not complete. They are missing so much truth and structure of the greek based on the flaws of the english language. Although they are great for giving people truth and anyone can read and find God. I would recommend everyone get to a church with a pastor or teacher fluent in the greek, because you are missing so much especially as you grow in the knowledge and truth of God. there is so much more you can get from the greek which is missing from the enlgish.
3. As for the Old Inglish text. I was confused. I could not understand much of what was being said. it not only has the flaws of the modern day text when compaired to the greek. But one would have to go to school to learn old english to be able to even properly read it and understand what is being said.

Well that is just your opinion eternally-grateful.

Are you aware that the Greek spoken today over in Greece is vastly different from the Koine Greek of the New Testament?

Today there are several different forms and dialects of Greek which are spoken.

And again, the Greeks today do not speak Koine Greek. They speak modern Greek.

 

[Agricola]

Fact : King James Only is a cult.
Fact : Chosenbyhim is a member
Fact: Chosenbyhim is therefore a cult member.
Fact: This is not namecalling or insult, just the correct label.

The issue over passover is brought up time and time again along with nose rings, as they are the easier points to show how stupid this cult is and is something which most people can follow and relate to without having a degree in theology.

I keep on pointing out that if someone can not get basic facts right, or build something on solid foundations then the rest of it fails. YOu simply have to see that the King James Only Cult bases its whole ideology by cherry picking a couple of verses, taking them out of context, manipluate them and then build a whole new theology and way of thinking on them, this is what cults do.

Issues such as claiming that changing Rebecca's earring to nose ring is further proof as to how far this cult will go in trying to prove there is an evil at work in translations after 1611.

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!
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If you read the complete lists of vserse which they they object to, it would be an easier job to list the verses they are fine with.

This is a King James Only Cult website Dial-the-Truth Ministries (www.av1611.org) - Other Publications , this may seem familiar as it is where Chosenbyhim copies and pastes just about all of his replies.

Here is a recent copy and paste job which highlighted how evil The New King James version is, The New King James Bible: Counterfeit WHich of course includes the nosering and other evil changes such as :

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

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Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

1 Thess. 5:22 change "all appearance of evil" to "every form of evil" (NASV, RSV, NSRV)

1 Timothy 6:5: The NKJV changes "gain is godliness" to "godliness is a MEANS OF gain". There are NO Greek texts with "means of" in them! Where, oh where, did they come from? Care to take a wild guess? YOU GOT IT! The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

1 Timothy 6:10: The NKJV changes "For the love of money is the root of all evil:" to "For the love of money is a root of all KINDS OF evil". The words "KINDS OF" are found in NO Greek text in the world! Where did they get them? Straight from the NIV, NASV, NRSV!

1 Tim. 6:20: change "science" to "knowledge" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Titus 3:10: change "heretic" to "divisive man" (NIV)
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Are these really changes made by Satan? NO.

These are the foundations which the cult is based on, how can you trust a cult with more serious stuff, when it makes such stupid claims and demonstrates a total lack of intelligence and lack of even basic general knowledge? In short you can not. The whole cult is flawed from the very begining and the very bottom is a rotting putrid stench of evil and decay to the top.

This cult should be banned.

 

[RecceforChrist]

Good evening brother chosen . God smiles on you my brother for He delights in truth . 2000 + years ago our Lord and Master , our Saviour , Jesus Christ was called a cultist to . To be placed in the same boat as He is a great honour . Delight in the small persecusions for His sake my brother , for you will surely receive you're crown in the days to come. Sir agricole , I don't read the kjv very often but I do read the original afrikaans version as often as I can . It was first published in 1933 . Since then we had a few " improved" translations in afrikaans . The one more corupt then the next. This is true for every language on earth and is solely inspired by satan. You must have a very bad eye condition not to see this corrupting of Gods Word , but then again , it was prophesied that in latter days people would gather preachers and teachers who would be soft on their ears and God would give them over to a spirit of delusion. It seems you've been given over to this " spirit of delusion" because only a deluded person can think that Gods Word is anything but perfect. I will pray for you're eye condition dear sir. Shalom

 

[RecceforChrist]

The jewish priests and elders tried to ban The Son of God , and later on also His disciples. When they couldn't they killed them to shut them up. Does it seem to you that they were succesfull sir agricole? LoL. On the contrarery dear sir. Through their satanic inspired actions they only spread the True Gospel even quicker. You see sir , God uses every move of satan to enhance His Kingdom and all these corrupt translations is only putting the focus of the true believer squarly back on The True Word of God. Praise His Holy Name. His Holy Spirit leads us in ALL Truth.

 

[Agricola]

That is a ridiculous comparison to make RecceforChrist.

By your logic then all cults are on equal footing with Christ, the Westbro Baptist church are a cult, does that make them equal with Christ as well? What about Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God? They are a cult too, are they same as Christ? no.

No matter what you say King James Onlyism is a cult.

 

[RecceforChrist]

Look at Paul for instance. Here we had a pharisee that did everything in his human power to eradicate this " cult" until he met The Leader of this cult on the road to damascus. What did God do to him my dear sir? God made him blind . Then years later after He took paul into the arabian desert He revealed to paul the great mystery , the mystery that paul calls " my gospel" Christ in you , the hope of Glory. This "my gospel" that paul talks about in all of his letters dear sir , this gospel was the "cult" that he persecuted for so long. Waky waky dear sir, God wrote only one Bible .

 

[RecceforChrist]

Lol . Ooooh Nooo me lord , no logic of mine that is , but surely logic of yours it seem. You see dear sir , there was only the Tohrah when Jesus walked this earth. The Bible as we know it was not written yet was it sir? His Spirit inspired people like luke matthew john paul ect to write our Bible . Later on His Spirit inspired other people like luther to translate The Bible. Satan is a copycat as you surely know and he curently is corupting The Bible beyond recognition. Have you read this new world order bible sir?

 

[Agricola]

WHy do you keep repeating yourself, I will only give the same answers.

The King James Bible of 1611 is not the final perfect Bible that you claim it is. Never has been a "perfect Bible" and never will be.

Now, if Satan is re-writing the bible, then why does Satan want this changed?

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!
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[eternally-gratefull]

Have you read the Translators to the Readers in the Preface of the Authorized Version?

Again; the issue is not whether or not the English language has went through several changes, because it indeed has. The real issue is has it changed so much to warrant the 250+ English translations that we currently have today on the market?

In fact, just go back to the year of 1881. Has the English language changed so much from 1881 to 2013 that there somehow was a need to be produce so many different English modern versions and translations?

lol. Verily Verily... Go ask any school person what this means. I guarantee you will get looked at funny.

Tongues. This word has caused much infighting between churches. why? Because in the 1800 the word "language" was not used.

Baptize. Not an english word at all. Again a huge change..

Keep fooling yourself. I gave but three examples of how the old english has caused division itself and also how words were used we do not even use today.

Well it is good to hear that they are winning people to Christ.
But they also need to deal with the Bible Version Issue and if they are ignorant about it, then they should learn the issue and make the right decision to get back to the true word of God, which is the Authorized King James Version.

Nah, they don;t have to do this. Many churches have gone years not using this bible. And going to it would not make them any more usefull for God. I have not used it since I was a teen. Has not stunted my growth, Or caused me to not learn Gods truth, Fact is when my mother died, She left me her KJV, I tried to read it a few times. I could not. The language was so foreign (even though I grew up and used it and was taught under it for 15 years, in fact many verses I memorized using it I still remember those) I had to put it down.

I use the NASB or NKJV in my studies and teaching today. Going back to the kJV would not help at all. And I certainly would not use it in my sermons. I would lose people.

The Bible Version Issue is one of the most important issues facing the church today. It is an issue over the absolute Final Authority.

Nope. No church I know of or have ever attended reject the authority of the word of God. no matter what version they use. You need to stop listening to men who teach you such foolish things..

The most important issue is and always has been the gospel.. So many differing views.. Not what bible you use. The fact you even say something like this shows me your heart is in the wrong place.

And what we King James Bible believers do is share facts and documented evidence that clearly shows the corruptions of the modern versions and the corrupt Nestle Aland's Greek text, as well as the corrupt Siniaticus and Vaticanus Greek texts which the modern versions are all based on. And truth divides. As Christians we are to divide over Doctrinal matters. And the Bible Version Issue is indeed a doctrinal matter and issue.

yep. I mean there is NO way someone could have added to the much older documents you use, and the ones which where written much closer to the origionals could not possibly be right (rolls eyes)

That is incorrect. Many of them contradict.

Oh so you admit some don't? at least you have this much..There is still hope for you yet

To see an examle of this, here is a link to an article which Brandplucked wrote showing how several of the modern versions reject the Hebrew Texts, and how they do so in different places:

NIV, NASB reject Hebrew - Another King James Bible Believer

Sorry I do not listen to propoganda. I study for myself. Like Paul said we should do.. Why read or listen to men when you can study it yourself?

I have read the KJV, the NKJV and the NASB.. And I never read anything in one that I did not also read in the other.

Wrong again.

It is the Bible believers that have to rebuke you Alexandrians who deny perfect and Final Authority. We King James Bible believers stand for and defend the Authority of one Book. Therefore we are working to bring about true unity.

You people who claim that "no Bible is perfect" don't have a Final Authority to submit to.


You have made your feelings and preferences your god. And in essence your own intellect and preferences have become your final authority.


And it is the 250+ modern, conflicting bible translations that are causing more and more Christians to no longer believe in the word of God.

The modern versions are sowing confusion and doubt into the body of Christ.

No I am right. Many churches teach the same gospel you do. And teach the same Christ. Your teaching discord by saying they follow a Bible not from God. causing discontinuity in the church. When are you going to wake up and see the damage your causing? I have been out of a KJV only church for over 20 years now. Been a member of MANY different types of churches. And I have yet to find all the stuff my KJV only leaders told me I would see.

Why don;t you go out and see for yourself. or are you afraid??

No Bible for 1600 years???


What about the Geneva Bible?

1560?

What about the Bishop's Bible?

1568?

Or the Great Bible?

1539?

And Tyndale's New Testament?

And how about Wycliffe's Bible?

1300's on and? and what about them? you still have over 1300 with no bible. And these?? if these were pure bibles. then why did we need the kjv?? either they were inspired. Or you just proved me correct in my assessment of no bible for 1600 years.. and you still have non for 1300.. Why did God fail to keep his word for so long??

Well that is just your opinion eternally-grateful.

Are you aware that the Greek spoken today over in Greece is vastly different from the Koine Greek of the New Testament?

Today there are several different forms and dialects of Greek which are spoken.

And again, the Greeks today do not speak Koine Greek. They speak modern Greek.

Yep and you just proved my point. a person reading the greek today would not quite understand because changes in words and terms. Just like the english language has since the KJV was written. Thats why we need to study the origional language, Not modern day greek.

 

[Reformedjason]

Chosenbyhim. I have checked into the different version situation. I have come to a different conculsion than you have. I do not agree with you. Sorry. I respect that you only believe that the Kjv is the bible. When you start trying to push your agenda down ones throat it is when you get into an area that people get offensive. I love the NIV. When you call my favorite bible version a satanic bible it is very offensive. If you don't see that I can't help you. Ok let's say your right. Would it not be better to tone down the trash talk of other bibles and let the Holy Spirit do his job? I was led to the Lord by a pastor using a NIV. The NIV has given much fruit for the kingdom, so how can that be satanic?

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Fact : King James Only is a cult.
Fact : Chosenbyhim is a member
Fact: Chosenbyhim is therefore a cult member.
Fact: This is not namecalling or insult, just the correct label.

No, King James Onlyism is not a cult.


You just claim that it is based on your ignorance sir.


And yes you have resorted to name calling because you simply cannot handle the evidence of what has been given. You need to deal wit the facts sir.


The modern versions are based on a completely different Greek text than that of the Authorized King James Holy Bible.


In fact, one of the two corrupt manuscripts which underlie the modern versions, Vaticanus (B) makes a total of about 2700 omissions in the text of the four Gospels alone. That is a irrefutable fact sir.


The corrupt, Satanic NIV (New International Version) makes about 5,000 omissions in the text of the New Testament alone.


Now didn't God Almighty say something about taking away from His word??


You may want to read Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:19 sometime sir.


So those who take the time to study the issue and do their due diligence in regard to this important matter of God's holy words, they take their stand for the Authorized King James Holy Bible by conviction. I told you this before, and I'll say it again. The Bible Version Issue is an issue and matter of Final Authority. It is about whether or not we have God's pure and inerrant words today.


And people who do not have a high regard and reverence for the pure words of the living God will not put up with sound doctrine nor will they take the time to study the matter for themselves.


So agricola, you need to repent of your error sir. And take the time to study the issue.

The issue over passover is brought up time and time again along with nose rings, as they are the easier points to show how stupid this cult is and is something which most people can follow and relate to without having a degree in theology.

And just as I said before, I will repeat it yet again for you. The argument regarding the Passover/Easter debate for Acts 12:4 has already been answered many times by Bible believers who took the time to study the issue.

There are answers out there for those who are really seeking the truth.

I keep on pointing out that if someone can not get basic facts right, or build something on solid foundations then the rest of it fails. YOu simply have to see that the King James Only Cult bases its whole ideology by cherry picking a couple of verses, taking them out of context, manipluate them and then build a whole new theology and way of thinking on them, this is what cults do.

And what exactly are the basic facts Agricola? I asked you this very question the last time to which you would not answer.

And no, what we King James Bible believers do is we show you the evidence. We present you with the facts about how the modern versions clearly make omissions, additions and alterations to the Biblical Text. And then it is up to you to then make the right decision from thereon.

I can assure you that modern textual criticism is no friend to the word of God.

Also, we who believe the King James Bible, and who have studied the Bible Version Issue, show the corruptions of the Westcott and Hort Greek text.

And it should also be pointed out that Westcott and Hort did not believe the first three chapters of the book of Genesis. Of course it is not surprising since their minds had been defiled with German rationalism. Westcott did not believe in the miracles of the Bible.


Here is what he wrote in his own words in 1847:

"1 never read an account of a miracle but I seem instinctively to feel its improbability and discover some want of evidence in the account of it." - (Westcott)



Hort did not believe in the power of the atonement. Here are his own words:


"The fact is, I do not see how God's justice can be satisfies without every man 's suffering in his own person the full penalty for his sins." - (Hort)



Hort also believed in the worship of Mary:

"I am very far from pretending to understand completely the ever renewed vitality of Mariolatry. ...I have been persuaded for many years that Mary-worship and Jesus-worship' have very much in common in their causes and their results." - (Hort)



And finally, here is Westcott showing what he truly believes about Heaven:


" No doubt the language of the Rubric is unguarded, but it saves us from the error of connecting the Presence of Christ's glorified humanity with place; heaven is a state and not a place. [SUP]124[/SUP]
Yet the unseen is the largest part of life. Heaven lies about us now in infancy alone; and by swift, silent pauses for thought, for recollection, for aspiration, we cannot only keep fresh the influence of that diviner atmosphere, but breathe it more habitually. [SUP]125 [/SUP]
We may reasonably hope, by patient, resolute, faithful, united endeavor to find heaven about us here, the glory of our earthly life." 126 - (Westcott)


So it appears these two men also did not believe in a literal Heaven. I wonder why that is. Oh it is probably because they were lost. Because not only did they not believe in a literal Heaven. But they also did not believe in the literal Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor did they believe in the literal 1,000 year Reign of the Lord Jesus Christ.


Now keep in mind now, these two men were the ones mainly responsible for the Revised Version of 1881. Which is the modern bible version which would lead to all the other modern versions as time would go on.

So next time you want to justify the use of the modern Vatican versions that are based on the Nestle Aland's and UBS Greek text, just keep that mind. Keep in mind the heretical beliefs of Westcott and Hort which are responsible for the corrupt Greek text that serves as the basis for just about all the modern versions today.


And one other thing, if you want to know where that information on Westcott and Hort came from, here are the following books:



1. - (One Book Stands Alone, Dr. Douglas Stauffer)

2. - Westcott, Arthur, Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott. (New York, 1903), Volume II, p. 49, 253, & 394.

Issues such as claiming that changing Rebecca's earring to nose ring is further proof as to how far this cult will go in trying to prove there is an evil at work in translations after 1611.

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!


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If you read the complete lists of vserse which they they object to, it would be an easier job to list the verses they are fine with.

This is a King James Only Cult website Dial-the-Truth Ministries (www.av1611.org) - Other Publications , this may seem familiar as it is where Chosenbyhim copies and pastes just about all of his replies.

Okay and why is it that you are only mentioning and addressing one change, when there are many others?

There are literal hundreds of other changes made in the modern versions. That's the whole point. The Issue Agricola with all the corrupt modern versions is money. That's the whole point. When are the translators behind the modern versions going to stop changing the words of God?


They most likely won't. Why? Well 1 Timothy 6:10 tells us clearly:


10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. - 1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV)


And that is the motivation for the so called "Scholar$" who are behind the modern versions. They are producing a new bible just about every 6 months in hopes of turning a profit off of the copyright they get from it.


It's that simple. And that also explains why there are over 250+ English translations on the market today.


Because they don't want to give us a bible that is supposedly "easier to understand," but they simply want to make money. And if you do not see that, when then you lack spiritual discernment.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Here is a recent copy and paste job which highlighted how evil The New King James version is, The New King James Bible: Counterfeit WHich of course includes the nosering and other evil changes such as :

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

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Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

1 Thess. 5:22 change "all appearance of evil" to "every form of evil" (NASV, RSV, NSRV)

1 Timothy 6:5: The NKJV changes "gain is godliness" to "godliness is a MEANS OF gain". There are NO Greek texts with "means of" in them! Where, oh where, did they come from? Care to take a wild guess? YOU GOT IT! The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

1 Timothy 6:10: The NKJV changes "For the love of money is the root of all evil:" to "For the love of money is a root of all KINDS OF evil". The words "KINDS OF" are found in NO Greek text in the world! Where did they get them? Straight from the NIV, NASV, NRSV!

1 Tim. 6:20: change "science" to "knowledge" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Titus 3:10: change "heretic" to "divisive man" (NIV)
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Are these really changes made by Satan? NO.

Actually, the answer is yes. You see Agricola, God is not the author of confusion. And so therefore, God is not behind all of these conflicting paraphrases and modern versions.


So who must really be behind all of this confusion???


Satan. It is the old serpent. I mean just consider this Agricola, Satan is a master counterfeiter. Satan is transformed into an angel of light, and his own ministers are transformed as the ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).


Satan's very desire is to be like the most high (Isaiah 14:14).


Also, believe it or not, Satan even has his own church (Revelation 17).


And who could that be? The Vatican, the Roman Catholic church, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH, which is responsible for the blood of the saints and martyrs of the Lord Jesus Christ. (See Revelation 17:5).


Now also consider this Agricola, if Satan has his own church, and his own ministers, wouldn't you think that he would have his own bibles??


I know for a certainty that he does.


In fact, he was the very first being who questioned God's word. Read Genesis 3. Satan was the one who tempted Eve by casting doubt upon what God had said. Satan caused Eve to doubt the words of God.



3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. - Genesis 3:1-5 (KJV)



Now Agricola, were you paying attention sir?


Notice what both Satan and Eve did to the words of God.


Satan questioned God's word. After Satan questioned Eve about what God had said to them about the trees of the Garden of Eden, he then omitted the second part of God's words. Satan left out the part where God clearly said: "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." ( See Genesis 2:17).


And as Eve responded to the Serpent (Satan), she both added to and took away from God's word.

Eve added "neither shall ye touch it."

God never said: "neither shall ye touch it." He simply said: "thou shalt not eat of it."


Again, see Genesis 2:17


Also, Eve omitted the word "freely" in verse 2 of Genesis 3.


Now isn't that something? The very first sin that was ever committed on this earth was committed by a woman. And she committed it when she attempted to quote what God said. Just look at that.

But now wait, it did not stop there. Satan, the original revisor and very first revisionist, not only questioned and subtracted from God's word, he also went on to change the very words of God in verse 4 and 5:



4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. - Genesis 3:4-5


And after Satan lied to Eve, the rest is history. She fell for his subtlety and deception. And she disobeyed and broke the commandment of God, then got her husband to also break God's commandment, and that led to the fall of mankind.



These examples clearly show that Satan's ultimate goal is to get Christians to question God's word and to doubt God's word. And just as Satan hates God, Satan also hates God's word.


And again, if Satan attacked the very words of God from the very beginning of mankind, well don't you think he is still busy doing the very same thing in regard to God's Final Authority?


And also, are you aware that within the first 100 years after the death of the apostles, on account of Irenaeus, he said that a man by the name of Marcion, who was a known Gnostic, took it upon himself to mutilate and corrupt the Scriptures. And there were other wicked men who followed him in corrupting the words of God. Some of the main Scriptures that were shortened and altered by these corrupt men were the following:


The Gospel of Luke, and also the Epistles of Paul.


Now didn't Paul mention about those who were corrupting the word of God in his day?

Yep.

17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ. - 2 Corinthians 2:17 (KJV)


Now again sir, just take the time to actually think about what I am about to say. If there were many who were corrupting the word of God in Paul's day and very shortly after his death, don't you think there would be many today that are corrupting God's word??


This is not rocket science Agricola. Anybody who has an ounce of discernment and common sense, can understand that the main theme of Satan's arsenal, his devices, and his attack, is the perverting of Scripture. And that is a fact.


Oh and while your on the subject of the New King James Version, you may want to also include these facts about:

The New King James Version makes the following omissions in its text:


- Omits the word "Lord" 66 times.
- Omits the word "God" 51 times.
- Omits the word "heaven" 50 times.
- Omits the word "blood" 23 times.
- The word "repent" is omitted 44 times.
- The word "hell" is omitted 22 times.
- The word "Jehovah" is omitted entirely.
- And here are some other words which are also omitted entirely:

"new testament," "devils," and "damnation."

Not

These are the foundations which the cult is based on, how can you trust a cult with more serious stuff, when it makes such stupid claims and demonstrates a total lack of intelligence and lack of even basic general knowledge? In short you can not. The whole cult is flawed from the very begining and the very bottom is a rotting putrid stench of evil and decay to the top.

This cult should be banned.

And Agricola, my question to you is how can you trust a modern version whose underlying Greek texts are from heretics such as Westcott and Hort???

How can you trust a modern bible that removes 64,000 words from Biblical text like the NIV does?

Well?

These modern bible perversions are nothing more than fables. They are Satanic counterfeits.

And sir, you cannot prove otherwise. Nor can any other Alexandrian. The facts have been shown. And so has the historical evidence from the holy Scriptures, from the word of God itself.

The historical evidence of how Satan, the very first revisionist, cast doubt upon the words of God. How he got Eve to question and doubt God's words. Hence, leading to the very fall of mankind.

 

[LT]

please stop these threads

 

[ChosenbyHim]

please stop these threads

LT, the Bible Version Issue is an issue that needs to be presented to others.

It is one of the most important and serious issues facing the church today.

 

[Agricola]

Tell me something you have not already copied and pasted.

Tell me why this is from satan and the author of confusion.

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

Why is changing this also wrong?

Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

the message is still the same. Your cult has deluded you in a huge way There is no Bible Issue, never has been never will be. Its an invention of your cult leaders. All cults need a core belief which is totally different to others, which they then promote as truth and that everone who is against it is going to be held accountable for thier actions.

Chosenbyhim, you are a member of a nasty cult that has deluded and brainwashed you.

 

[RecceforChrist]

Good day brother chosen . I'm thanking God for a person with you're conviction and commitment. AMEN to you're previous post brother and please keep up the good work . Lordship agricola is only providing the proof of satans actions against The True Word of God. My brother I am praying for you that God will multiply the Anointing on you and lead you more and more into His perfect will for you. Remember always brother chosen , the closer you grow to God and the clearer you speak The Truth , the bigger the attacks against you will become. Stand fast my brother. We are living in the last minutes of the last day . God bless you.

 

[Agricola]

Good day brother chosen . I'm thanking God for a person with you're conviction and commitment. AMEN to you're previous post brother and please keep up the good work . Lordship agricola is only providing the proof of satans actions against The True Word of God. My brother I am praying for you that God will multiply the Anointing on you and lead you more and more into His perfect will for you. Remember always brother chosen , the closer you grow to God and the clearer you speak The Truth , the bigger the attacks against you will become. Stand fast my brother. We are living in the last minutes of the last day . God bless you.

Spoken like a true cult member, condemn all those who disagree with you. Well Done.

Tell me why this is from satan and the author of confusion.

Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

Why is changing this also wrong?

Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

 

[LT]

This is the truth: God has spoken by His prophets, and through His Son, Jesus Christ, who is the LORD. His Word was recorded infallibly through the inspiration of the Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit, His Word has been spread to all nations to be spoken and read in nearly every tongue(and this work will continue until the Last Day).

By slandering His Word with these accusations, you are condemning yourselves, and blaspheming against the work of God through the Holy Spirit. You are right in saying the author of confusion is at work, for you are his agents spreading his lies. These lies are created to confuse new believers, uproot the basis of faith for those growing in Christ, and to distract the faithful.

I pray for discernment to all who read this thread, and for the repentance of those who have been trying to lead others astray by this darkness.

 

[RecceforChrist]

Dear young brother , I'm very glad for the prayers you are offering up for those caught up in delusion. Slandering The Word of God is a very bad thing to do and that is why brother chosen is fighting this exact slandering of Gods Word by translators that is corrupting the very Word of God. No matter which way you or his lordship agricole look at this practise , it is clear that many changes was made and many words ommitted or aded in. That my dear young brother is totally against Gods Word. So my dear young brother , please keep on praying against this spirit of delusion and keep on listening to the voice of The Holy Spirit , who will lead you in The Truth

 

[RecceforChrist]

You're lordship agricole, here is a very intresting bit of history on you're nickname. Are you perhaps related to this roman soldier ?Gnaeus Julius Agricola was born on 13 July 40 AD in southern France, then part of the Roman Empire, into a high-ranking family. He began his career as a military tribune in Britain and may have participated in the crushing of Boudicca's uprising in 61 AD. During the civil war of 69 AD, Agricola supported Vespasian in his successful attempt to become emperor. Agricola was appointed to command a Roman legion in Britain. He then served as governor of Aquitania (south-east France) for three years, and after a period in Rome, in 78 AD he was made governor of Britain.

As soon as he arrived, Agricola began campaigning to assert Roman authority in north Wales. According to Tacitus he crossed the Menai Straits and took Anglesey. From 79 - 80 AD, Agricola moved north to Scotland where he consolidated Roman military control and masterminded the building of a string of forts across the country from west to east. From 81 - 83 AD, Agricola campaigned north of the Forth-Clyde line and confronted the Caledonian tribes under Calgacus at the battle of Mons Graupius in 84 AD. The Caledonians were routed, but despite Agricola's claim that the island had now been conquered, the threat to Roman security from the north was not completely removed.

The following year, Agricola was recalled to Rome and died there on 23 August 93 AD.