Are King James Bible believers "Idolaters"?

[ChosenbyHim]

I have no authority. God is the Final Authority, not a piece of paper. Scripture has been given to us from God.

I did not say "was" for a reason.

38Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. - Mark 8:38 (KJV)



26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. - Luke 9:26 (KJV)



23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. - John 14:23 (KJV)



3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. - 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (KJV)

 

[Sanashankar]

You must be new to the English language.

lol...good reply. the para in blue is actually written by Alexander Thomson not me.

 

[jimmydiggs]

lol...good reply. the para in blue is actually written by Alexander Thomson not me.

You missed my point. Maybe that is a further sign you are new to English. If I was asking about Alexander Thomson, I would have said his name.

In language, often universal terms are used for things that are not universal, just as non universal terms are often used in universal ways.

The word "man" is an excellent example.

 

[Sanashankar]

You missed my point. Maybe that is a further sign you are new to English. If I was asking about Alexander Thomson, I would have said his name.

In language, often universal terms are used for things that are not universal, just as non universal terms are often used in universal ways.

The word "man" is an excellent example.

Hmm... might be..but what has that to do with this? new testament was written in Greek, and in Greek aeon means age. Now how can english speaking people say aeon does not mean age it means eternity? scripture says aeon has an end, how can versions translated in english say it does not have an end? CONTRADICTION!!!! Is hat the rite english word to explain this?

 

[jimmydiggs]

Hmm... might be..but what has that to do with this? new testament was written in Greek, and in Greek aeon means age. Now how can english speaking people say aeon does not mean age it means eternity? scripture says aeon has an end, how can versions translated in english say it does not have an end? CONTRADICTION!!!! Is hat the rite english word to explain this?

The same concept holds true in Koine Greek. The words for "World", "all", "everyone", "Everything" and the like are used in non universal terms.

So too with nonuniversal terms. You don't even have an argument, regardless of what you think the greek word for eternity means.

There is a reason the word is translated the way it is. That's what it means. This is why I question your mastery of the English language. You seem to not be able to understand the translation. Yet you insist you know Koine Greek so well. All you've done is heard what a heretical preacher/teacher said about the word.

 

[Praus]

This whole Apocryphal books thingy is so hypocritical. The modern version promoters (and those here who should just write their own bible versions and be done with it) end up cutting their own throats with this argument. Please try to get your facts straight.Why was the Apocrypha in the early printings of the King James Bible?Apocrypha KJB - Another King James Bible Believer

I read the paper--it's many words that ignore the fundamental problem.

It matters not whether the Apocrypha are included in a Bible translation or not, it's the inappropriateness of side note references in the 1611 KJV New Testament. There are eleven references to the Apocrypha in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit and the modern Bibles clarify which are correct and which are not!

The KJV translators believed that the words of Jesus Christ referred to Apocrypha, and modern translations have corrected that.

It seems KJV translators didn't always follow the 39 Articles.
"And the other Books (as Hierome saith) the Church doth read for example of life and instruction of manners; but yet doth it not apply them to establish any doctrine; ..."

One of the eleven references is Matt 6:7.

The KJV 1611:
Matt 6:7 But when yee pray, vse not vaine * repetitions, as the heathen doe. For they thinke that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Matthew 6:7 side note reference: Ecclus.7.16.



That's Ecclesiasticus, also called Wisdom of Sirach, and from what I can tell the side note refers to Ecclus 7:14-16, not just Ecclus 7:16.

Ecclus 7:14 Use not many words in a multitude of Elders, and make not much babling when thou prayest. 15 Hate not laborious worke, neither husbandrie, which the most High hath ordeined. 16 Number not thy selfe among the multitude of sinners, but remember that wrath will not tary long.

The NIV corrects that:
Matt 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling (A) like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. (B)
Cross references: (A) Matthew 6:7 : Ecc 5:2 (B) Matthew 6:7 : 1Ki 18:26-29

The ESV corrects that:
Matt 6:7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as (A) the Gentiles do, for (B) they think that they will be heard (C) for their many words.
Cross references: Matthew 6:7 : ver. 32; ch. 5:47, Matthew 6:7 : 1 Kgs. 18:26, Matthew 6:7 : Prov. 10:19; Eccles. 5:2

The NASB corrects that:Matt 6:7 “And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their (A) many words.
Cross references: Matthew 6:7 : 1 Kin 18:26f

 

[jimmydiggs]

38Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. - Mark 8:38 (KJV)



26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. - Luke 9:26 (KJV)



23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. - John 14:23 (KJV)



3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. - 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (KJV)

I have no shame about scripture. You do though. That's why you don't obey it.

 

[brandplucked]

Hi Jimmydiggs. You posted: "I do believe that there is an inspired and infallible bible, and those are the manuscripts, the very letters that Paul wrote."

Huh...Jimmy, aside from the fact that there is a whole lot more to the Bible than the few letters Paul wrote, could you give us a link to where we can actually SEE this infallible Bible or yours? Now, be very careful about what you put up or refer us to, because I undoubtedly will have a couple of questions about it for you. Give us a link to where we can see at least the infallible New Testament you think you have. Remember, if any other version differs from it either in text or meaning, then the others are wrong and yours is right. Ten or a hundred or a thousand different texts and totally different meanings cannot all be inerrant and infallible at the same time, unless you have mush for brains. So, let's see it. Thank you.

 

[brandplucked]

Praus, it is the TEXT of the words of God in the King James Bible that is infallible, not the Preface, or the maps or the marginal notes, but the TEXT. Do YOU have such an infallible Bible or not? You have so far completely dodged this question, just as my initial article stated. 95% of all Bible agnostics and unbelievers in the infallibility of the Bible will NOT tell us where to get an infallible Bible. The other 5% come out honestly and admit that they don't believe such a thing exists. SHOW us your infallible Bible or have the decency to be honest enough to admit you do not believe there IS such a thing. Thank you.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Huh...Jimmy, aside from the fact that there is a whole lot more to the Bible than the few letters Paul wrote, could you give us a link to where we can actually SEE this infallible Bible or yours?

I was giving those as an example, I suppose I should give you the whole list.

I like this graphic, as I think it is simple enough for a person to understand the what the infallible inspired bible is.

Now, be very careful about what you put up or refer us to, because I undoubtedly will have a couple of questions about it for you.

No doubt you will. Jesus was always asked questions intended to tangle and snare by the pharisees. Why should I expect otherwise?

Give us a link to where we can see at least the infallible New Testament you think you have.

Why only the New Testament? Do you not believe the old?

Remember, if any other version differs from it either in text or meaning, then the others are wrong and yours is right. Ten or a hundred or a thousand different texts and totally different meanings cannot all be inerrant and infallible at the same time, unless you have mush for brains. So, let's see it. Thank you.

See the above graphic. They are the books of the bible, which are infallible and inspired.

 

[brandplucked]

Hi Jimmy. You are still dodging the question. Here. I will give you just a very short list. I have hundreds of examples. Tell us which of these readings is found in your infallible Bible. OK? Thanks.

Are these verses part of your Inspired and infallible Bible or not?


ALL these verses are omitted by the Catholic St. Joseph New American Bible 1970 and the Catholic New Jerusalem bible 1985 AND by the RSV, ESV, NIV, NET etc. The Holman Standard and NASB put them all in brackets, indicating doubt as to their authenticity.

Matthew 17:21- “Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.” (All omit)

Matthew 18:11 - “For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” (All omit)

Matthew 23:14- “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.” (All omit)

Mark 7:16 - “If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.” (All omit_

Mark 9:44 - “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” (All omit)

Mark 9:46 - “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” (All omit)

Mark 11:26 - “But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespases.” (All omit)

Mark 15:28 - “And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.” (All omit)

Luke 17:36 - “Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (All omit)

Luke 23:17 - “For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.” (All omit)

John 5:4 - “For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.” (All omit)

Acts 8:37 - “And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” (All omit)

Acts 15:34 - “Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.” (All omit)

Acts 24:6b to 8a - “and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, Commanding his accusers to come unto thee” (All omit)

Acts 28:29 -”And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.” (All omit)

Romans - 16:24 “The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.” (All omit)

I John 5:7-8 - omits the words: “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth” (All omit)

 

[Mammachickadee]

Are King James Bible believers "Idolaters"?

The KJV is a version of the Bible just like any version when in the hands of a true believer. It's not in the verbage, syntax, history, or looks of a book but in the Holy Spirit behind it that makes the Bible anything other than just any old history text. Though some versions of the Bible differ from the KJV (not the oldest version of the Bible) the Lord has still used them to convict the hearts of men unto amelioration or salvation.
Do some idolize the KJV as being better than any other version? Absolutely... but their error isn't in idolizing the KJV. Their error is in worshiping words, history, a work of the hands of man, and a fellow human being that inspires them to find all other versions distateful. Their sin is in questioning the power of the Holy Spirit who deserves the real glory of so much power.

 

[Mammachickadee]

Hi Jimmy. You are still dodging the question. Here. I will give you just a very short list. I have hundreds of examples. Tell us which of these readings is found in your infallible Bible. OK? Thanks.

Are these verses part of your Inspired and infallible Bible or not?


ALL these verses are omitted by the Catholic St. Joseph New American Bible 1970 and the Catholic New Jerusalem bible 1985 AND by the RSV, ESV, NIV, NET etc. The Holman Standard and NASB put them all in brackets, indicating doubt as to their authenticity.

Matthew 17:21- “Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.” (All omit)

Matthew 18:11 - “For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” (All omit)

Matthew 23:14- “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.” (All omit)

Mark 7:16 - “If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.” (All omit_

Mark 9:44 - “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” (All omit)

Mark 9:46 - “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” (All omit)

Mark 11:26 - “But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespases.” (All omit)

Mark 15:28 - “And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.” (All omit)

Luke 17:36 - “Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (All omit)

Luke 23:17 - “For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.” (All omit)

John 5:4 - “For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.” (All omit)

Acts 8:37 - “And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” (All omit)

Acts 15:34 - “Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.” (All omit)

Acts 24:6b to 8a - “and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, Commanding his accusers to come unto thee” (All omit)

Acts 28:29 -”And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.” (All omit)

Romans - 16:24 “The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.” (All omit)

I John 5:7-8 - omits the words: “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth” (All omit)

Though I agree it's disconcerting to be reading along in your favorite version of the Bible only to do a double take when a verse arrangement seems missing or altered, keep in mind that those who penned the KJV actually ADDED or ALTERED some things when translating the manuscripts. Some examples...
[h=2]Translation Errors[/h]Here is a partial listing of King James Version translation errors:
Genesis 1:2 should read "And the earth became without form . . ." The word translated "was" is hayah, and denotes a condition different than a former condition, as in Genesis 19:26.
Genesis 10:9 should read " . . . Nimrod the mighty hunter in place of [in opposition to] the LORD." The word "before" is incorrect and gives the connotation that Nimrod was a good guy, which is false.
Leviticus 16:8, 10, 26 in the KJV is "scapegoat" which today has the connotation of someone who is unjustly blamed for other's sins. The Hebrew is Azazel, which means "one removed or separated." The Azazel goal represents Satan, who is no scapegoat. He is guilty of his part in our sins.
Deuteronomy 24:1, "then let him" should be "and he." As the Savior explained in Matthew 19, Moses did not command divorcement. This statute is regulating the permission of divorce because of the hardness of their hearts.
II Kings 2:23, should be "young men", not "little children."
Isaiah 65:17 should be "I am creating [am about to create] new heavens and new earth . . ."
Ezekiel 20:25 should read "Wherefore I permitted them, or gave them over to, [false] statutes that are not good, and judgments whereby they should not live." God's laws are good, perfect and right. This verse shows that since Israel rejected God's laws, He allowed them to hurt themselves by following false man made customs and laws.
Daniel 8:14 is correct in the margin, which substitutes "evening morning" for "days." Too bad William Miller didn't realize this.
Malachi 4:6 should read " . . . lest I come and smite the earth with utter destruction." "Curse" doesn't give the proper sense here. Same word used in Zechariah 14:11.
Matthew 5:48 should be "Become ye therefore perfect" rather than "be ye therefore perfect." "Perfect" here means "spiritually mature." Sanctification is a process of overcoming with the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 24:22 needs an additional word to clarify the meaning. It should say "there should no flesh be saved alive."
Matthew 27:49 omits text which was in the original. Moffatt correctly adds it, while the RSV puts it in a footnote: "And another took a spear and pierced His side, and out came water and blood." The Savior's death came when a soldier pierced His side, Revelation 1:7.
Matthew 28:1, "In the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week . . ." should be translated literally, "Now late on Sabbath, as it was getting dusk toward the first day of the week . . . ." The Sabbath does not end at dawn but at dusk.
Luke 2:14 should say, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men of God's good pleasure or choosing." That is, there will be peace on earth among men who have God's good will in their hearts.
Luke 14:26 has the unfortunate translation of the Greek word miseo, Strong's #3404, as "hate", when it should be rendered "love less by comparison." We are not to hate our parents and family!
John 1:31, 33 should say "baptize" or "baptizing IN water" not with water. Pouring or sprinkling with water is not the scriptural method of baptism, but only thorough immersion in water.
John 1:17 is another instance of a poor preposition. "By" should be "through": "For the law was given by [through] Moses . . . ." Moses did not proclaim his law, but God's Law.
John 13:2 should be "And during supper" (RSV) rather than "And supper being ended" (KJV).
Acts 12:4 has the inaccurate word "Easter" which should be rendered "Passover." The Greek word is pascha which is translated correctly as Passover in Matthew 26:2, etc.
I Corinthians 1:18 should be: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that are perishing foolishness; but unto us which are being saved it is the power of God", rather than "perish" and "are saved." Likewise, II Thessalonians 2:10 should be "are perishing" rather than "perish."
I Corinthians 15:29 should be: "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the hope of the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the hope of the dead?"
II Corinthians 6:2 should be "a day of salvation", instead of "the day of salvation." This is a quote from Isaiah 49:8, which is correct. The day of salvation is not the same for each individual. The firstfruits have their day of salvation during this life. The rest in the second resurrection.
I Timothy 4:8 should say, "For bodily exercise profiteth for a little time: but godliness in profitable unto all things . . ."
I Timothy 6:10 should be, "For the love of money is a [not the] root of all evil . . ."
Hebrews 4:8 should be "Joshua" rather than "Jesus", although these two words are Hebrew and Greek equivalents.
Hebrews 4:9 should read, "There remaineth therefore a keeping of a Sabbath to the people of God."
Hebrews 9:28 is out of proper order in the King James. It should be: "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them without sin that look for him shall he appear the second time unto salvation."
I John 5:7-8 contains additional text which was added to the original. "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." The italicized text was added to the original manuscripts. Most modern translations agree that this was an uninspired addition to the Latin Vulgate to support the unscriptural trinity doctrine.
Revelation 14:4 should be "a firstfruits", because the 144,000 are not all the firstfruits.
Revelation 20:4-5 in the KJV is a little confusing until you realize that the sentence "This is the first resurrection." in verse five refers back to "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" in verse four.
Revelation 20:10, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are [correction: should be 'were cast' because the beast and false prophet were mortal human beings who were burned up in the lake of fire 1,000 years previous to this time, Revelation 19:20], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." The point is that Satan will be cast into the samelake of fire into which the beast and false prophet were cast a thousand years previously.
Revelation 22:2 should be "health" rather than "healing."

-courtesy of Richard Nickels (proponent of the KJV but an objective researcher)

 

[Nautilus]

SO brandplucked why would God wait 1600 years pretty much after he ave us his Son to finally release the infalliable version of the Bible and why would he choose English? I mean seem s a little wonky to wait THAT long...

 

[Praus]

In all of this discussion about one translation or another, or the perfection of the translators.........let us not lose sight of the fact that Holy Scripture IS the Inspired Word of God........seems to me too many people get caught up in things that are of little or no importance, while they should have their eyes fixed on Jesus and being obedient to His commandments.........

'Hell is empty / And all the devils are here.' --Ariel, The Tempest, Shakespeare (1611)

I study mostly from the KJV myself, and I've also read a decent amount of KJV-onlyist material. I believe that KJV-onlyism is a false cult teaching that is designed to distract people from the real issue: Jesus Christ.

1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (KJV/PCE)

1 John 4:1-3 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. (NIV 2011)


The KJV-onlyists dislike the translators' introduction to the KJV, I don't know what they make of Ravenscroft.

Job 38:41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat. (KJV/PCE)

There was no shortage of dismal musick in 1611, clearly there was a shortage of badly-needed antidepressants that year. Fortunately it looks like Ravenscroft warned us about KJV-only doctrine.

There were three Ravens sat on a tree, / they were as blacke as they might be,
The one of them said to his mate / Where shall we our breakefast take?
Downe in yonder greene field / There lies a Knight slain under his shield,
--There Were Three Ravens, Thomas Ravenscroft (1611)


[video=youtube;z2HmkKc-sPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2HmkKc-sPI[/video]

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Jesus was always asked questions intended to tangle and snare by the pharisees.

And Jesus spoke and taught with Authority.


28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.- Matthew 7:28-29 (KJV)


22 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes. - Mark 1:22 (KJV)



The Scribes and Pharisees did not speak with authority.


The Scribes and Pharisees were hypocrites. They casted doubt upon the word of God. They held their own traditions above the word of God. Just like you are doing Jimmy.



3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. - Matthew 15:3-6 (KJV)



7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. - Mark 7:7-13 (KJV)



The "Originals Only" theory is a man made theory and tradition that was created by the Alexandrian scholars and seminarians to reject the authoritative word of God.


And of course this theory of the Alexandrian Scholars and textual critics has absolutely no Scriptural support. That is how one can quickly discern that it is a man made tradition.

 

[brandplucked]

The KJV is a version of the Bible just like any version when in the hands of a true believer. It's not in the verbage, syntax, history, or looks of a book but in the Holy Spirit behind it that makes the Bible anything other than just any old history text. Though some versions of the Bible differ from the KJV (not the oldest version of the Bible) the Lord has still used them to convict the hearts of men unto amelioration or salvation.
Do some idolize the KJV as being better than any other version? Absolutely... but their error isn't in idolizing the KJV. Their error is in worshiping words, history, a work of the hands of man, and a fellow human being that inspires them to find all other versions distateful. Their sin is in questioning the power of the Holy Spirit who deserves the real glory of so much power.

And yet, Mammachickadee, you don't believe that ANY Bible IS the infallible words of God, do you.

 

[brandplucked]

Translation Errors[/B]

Here is a partial listing of King James Version translation errors:
Genesis 1:2 should read "And the earth became without form . . ." The word translated "was" is hayah, and denotes a condition different than a former condition, as in Genesis 19:26.

Hi Mammachickadee, I have seen this ridiculous list of alleged errors many times before. Are you aware that you just accused not only the KJB of being in error here, but also the NKJV, RV, ASV, NIV, NASB, ESV, Holman Standard and just about every Bible version out there? Such are the ways of the self appointed Bible critic. You have NO infallible Bible to believe in yourself and your silly objections and corrections are usually due to ignorance and an exalted sense of self importance. Your only "final written authority" is your own mind and personal preferences. Just write your own bible version and be done with it.

 

[brandplucked]

Hi all. You will notice that Praus is STILL dodging the question and will never tell you what is the name of the infallible Bible or where to get a copy of it. Why? Because he simply does not believe that such a thing exists. He fits perfectly the description of the typical unbeliever in the infallibility of any Bible in any language that I mentioned in the initial article. He is only confirming the truth of what I wrote.

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Luke 8:8

 

[jonathanbchristian]

Some times I find the KJV most accurate and some times other versions are more accurate.