Understanding God’s election

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Magenta

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Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.” Born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. You are chosen to proclaim the virtues of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. My soul will exult in my God, for He has clothed me with garments of salvation, and wrapped me in a robe of righteousness.
 
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PaulThomson said:
And yet you insisted at first that a Christian cannot sin. You said -

"1 John 3:7-10
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
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It is the ungodly world that is under the devil's power -- those who live under the control of the flesh, the world and their evil father; not Christ's Church! How long have you been an admirer of the devil? And notice that v. 8b is not in the future tense, as you claim by your earthly millennial kingdom nonsense. John did not teach that Christ will appear to destroy the devils' work -- but rather that He HAS APPEARED, i.e. his first advent!"

Now you seem to be back-tracking to Christians won't 'finally succumb to the devil's attacks into apostasy, but the devil will nevertheless be able to tempt and overcome Christians for a season.
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It's sad that you cannot understand what the above passage is teaching. What part of "no one....will continue to sin" or "he cannot go on sinning" can't you unederstand? And what part of the unilateral NC promises can't you understand? For that matter, how come you unserstasnd so little of God's truth!?
 
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studier said:
You've already butchered the discussion of the Remnant in a failed attempt to put the cart before the horse but look at Paul's application of it and then the Lost Sheep of Israel in the Gospels. Also, look at some of the Israelites awaiting Messiah and even the expectations of some of the Samaritans expecting Messiah. I'd also look at the Prophet sent once again to bring Israel to repentance and the problems created by the shepherds of Israel.

It would also be nice to see some attempt at explaining the why and the how and the timing of the Lord considering Paul's faithfulness to see if there's something there. It's interesting to track how the Lord sees things and note truths such as how He calls sinful King David a man after His own heart.
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What in the world are you babbling about? What kind of dressing do you like on your word salads? :rolleyes:
 
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