Understanding God’s election

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Magenta

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Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.” Born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. You are chosen to proclaim the virtues of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. My soul will exult in my God, for He has clothed me with garments of salvation, and wrapped me in a robe of righteousness. Isaiah 61:10
 
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Mem said:
It is also my view that the natural man is as dead as the spirit man, and vise versa, as that is the sure prognosis.
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Not according to Scripture. Those who are born again do not die twice. The natural man is sure to die twice unless he is born again.

It is of my opinion that is never too late until one is completely dead dead dead.
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I agree. But until one is made alive and had their heart circumcised, they are a child of wrath, inherently hostile in their mind toward God, opposed to the spiritual things of God, incapable of submitting to God's law, unable to receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God, yadda yadda yadda. The Bible makes this very clear and I do rattle on about it. Scripture attests to this and also to the fact that some simply do not hear (faith comes by hearing) because they do not belong to God. Yes yes all souls belong to God but that is like saying Jesus does not know someone, which is not possible, Jesus knows everyone, proper context must be employed. And like saying, he who has ears to hears does not mean there are people without ears. But everyone does not hear. That much is plain. Those who hear, live. Those who don't will die the 2nd death.


John 8:43, 47, Acts 13:48, Romans 8:8, John 8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” John 8:47 “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Romans 8:8 Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
 
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John 5:24-25 ~ Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life. Truly, truly, I tell you, the hour is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. :)
 
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