Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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That spirit which has been born again does not sin and is exactly why eternal life CANNOT BE LOST....however...it is still BOUND in a fallen body that is weak and sins.....the battle ground is the MIND which needs to be TRANSFORMED BY THE WORD OF GOD...the greater the transformation the less we sin although NEVER SINLESS until we receive a glorified body
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God CAN do anything and everything He chooses to do .. He CAN stop us from sinning but He chooses to ALLOW us to choose to sin or not to sin and if we choose to sin, to choose to repent or not to repent .. God chose us and desires that we choose Him .. He CAN but WILL NEVER force Himself on anyone .. God chose me and I choose God .. God will never abandon me but will I never abandon God? .. and if I ever do abandon God, will I REPENT and return to God and to loving Him and doing His Holy Will? .. I can say I would never abandon Him but only time will tell and I can say that IF I ever abandon Him, I would REPENT and return to Him and His Will but, again, only time will tell .. I pray daily that I never deceive nor mislead anyone and that I am not being deceived nor mislead and that no matter what, I shall always have the courage and faith to remain with God .. none of this is rocket science .. we can believe and love and obey but disobey occasionally and then repent or not .. our choice and our consequential eternal happiness or eternal torture .. pray you make the right choice as do I pray I do such ..
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no need to repent over and over again IF you stop succumbing to sin over and over again .. but as often as you choose to sin you must choose to repent or not .. repenting stops and is no longer needed when one stops sinning .. repentance is the remedy for sinning .. no further sinning would mean no further need of repentance remedy .. your choice and your choice alone ..
with God all things are possible .. without God nothing is possible .. if we choose to have Christ in our lives, we have His everlasting love and help .. but Christ will help us attain righteousness but WILL NEVER help us remain in unrepentant unrighteousness ..
and one who chooses to remain in unrepentant unrighteousness aka sin IS "dead wrong" and "DEAD" eternally .. With God STAY; with Satan STRAY .. with God LIVE; with Satan DIE ..
and one who chooses to remain in unrepentant unrighteousness aka sin IS "dead wrong" and "DEAD" eternally .. With God STAY; with Satan STRAY .. with God LIVE; with Satan DIE ..
Shows what you don't know or maybe what you think you know....for the record genius...I use a Cambridge Black letter edition, wide margin, Berkshire leather bound, KING JIMMY....the difference between you and I is, I actually believe it, study it and let it speak without religiously skewing it to fit my own dogma.....!!
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Salvation is simple (from a friend)
We are separated from God—we cannot see God, we don't hear His voice, we are trapped in a world of hate and deceit and pain, and we have no contact with God. The reason for this is that God is holy and righteous and we are not. We are born with innate sin. Those who have children know that the child's first two words are "momma" and "daddy" (or vocatives to that effect), and the third word is invariably "no!" This is the expression of the innate old sin nature. I know that some of you believe, or want to believe, that man is inherently good, and I am forced to admit that in just about every person I have met, there is some good in them. However, there is also in every person that I have met, a tendency to lie, or steal, or cheat, or to be self-righteous, or greedy, or self-centered. Somewhere in that person are imperfections. I don't care how wonderful a person is, ask any married person by week 3 or 4—their spouse, with whom they are madly in love, has some imperfections, even some characteristics predilections which are wrong. We cannot have fellowship with a perfect and holy God while we are in sin. His righteousness and justice demands that a penalty be paid for any sin committed against Him. This punishment is eternal separation from Him. We receive a taste of that separation from God here on earth. We receive a taste of living with man in possession of his old sin nature here on earth. Our salvation was obtained by Jesus Christ through His payment for our wrongdoings. On the cross, He received the equivalent of an eternity of separation from God on our behalf. The punishment which we deserved, He took upon Himself. We cannot merit salvation, we cannot appropriate this substitutionary atonement by our works. We cannot dedicate our lives to Jesus Christ, we cannot promise Him that we will behave, we cannot grit our teeth and do whatever it takes to become better people, we cannot ask Jesus into our hearts or lives; there is nothing that we can do to make up for our guilt before God. Our salvation is a free gift which we appropriate be believing in Jesus Christ; by relying upon what He did on our behalf on the cross; by depending entirely upon Him for salvation. This eliminates works, intentions, promises, sincerity, and everything else from the picture. Therefore, what we do prior to salvation and what we do after salvation does not affect what Christ did on our behalf on the cross and cannot remove salvation once it is given to us. I realize that is unpalatable to some. What we do after salvation certainly is addressed in the Bible—however, no matter what we do after salvation, it cannot nullify salvation, for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:29).
We are separated from God—we cannot see God, we don't hear His voice, we are trapped in a world of hate and deceit and pain, and we have no contact with God. The reason for this is that God is holy and righteous and we are not. We are born with innate sin. Those who have children know that the child's first two words are "momma" and "daddy" (or vocatives to that effect), and the third word is invariably "no!" This is the expression of the innate old sin nature. I know that some of you believe, or want to believe, that man is inherently good, and I am forced to admit that in just about every person I have met, there is some good in them. However, there is also in every person that I have met, a tendency to lie, or steal, or cheat, or to be self-righteous, or greedy, or self-centered. Somewhere in that person are imperfections. I don't care how wonderful a person is, ask any married person by week 3 or 4—their spouse, with whom they are madly in love, has some imperfections, even some characteristics predilections which are wrong. We cannot have fellowship with a perfect and holy God while we are in sin. His righteousness and justice demands that a penalty be paid for any sin committed against Him. This punishment is eternal separation from Him. We receive a taste of that separation from God here on earth. We receive a taste of living with man in possession of his old sin nature here on earth. Our salvation was obtained by Jesus Christ through His payment for our wrongdoings. On the cross, He received the equivalent of an eternity of separation from God on our behalf. The punishment which we deserved, He took upon Himself. We cannot merit salvation, we cannot appropriate this substitutionary atonement by our works. We cannot dedicate our lives to Jesus Christ, we cannot promise Him that we will behave, we cannot grit our teeth and do whatever it takes to become better people, we cannot ask Jesus into our hearts or lives; there is nothing that we can do to make up for our guilt before God. Our salvation is a free gift which we appropriate be believing in Jesus Christ; by relying upon what He did on our behalf on the cross; by depending entirely upon Him for salvation. This eliminates works, intentions, promises, sincerity, and everything else from the picture. Therefore, what we do prior to salvation and what we do after salvation does not affect what Christ did on our behalf on the cross and cannot remove salvation once it is given to us. I realize that is unpalatable to some. What we do after salvation certainly is addressed in the Bible—however, no matter what we do after salvation, it cannot nullify salvation, for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:29).
I would suggest, that if one was a serial killer or serial robber or serial- you name the sin, cried out “save me,” but after crying out, remained a serial killer, or you name it, then the words cried out were empty and insincere and wasted.
A faith that doesn’t inherently change one, inwardly and outwardly is wishful thinking.
A faith that doesn’t inherently change one, inwardly and outwardly is wishful thinking.
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how often does one need to be told, the gift of salvation is just that .. God's gift to ALL .. but not ALL accept it and not ALL who do accept it choose to keep it .. some who accept it misuse and abuse it and eventually lose it .. of the latter, some search to find it aka REPENT and retrieve it while others never search for it and have lost it forever aka have lost eternal salvation and have chosen eternal damnation .. no gift is eternally secure unless God and each person chooses to make it so and God does choose to make it so but not all who receive it choose to make it so .. only those whose names remain in the book of life are eternally saved but God does blot some names out of the book of life .. why? .. coz those persons chose to leave Him and go their own sinful way and never turn back aka REPENT ..
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