Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

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Pilgrimshope

Pilgrimshope

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Musicmaster said:
Unfortunately James disagrees with you, in that Abraham's faith was only legitimized after his work of obedience to sacrifice his one and only son:

James 2:21-22
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

This is only a problem for those out there who refuse to rightly divide the word of truth. Ahh, but the majority of Evangelical, Westernized Christianity claim they see no difference in what James said and what Paul said...both of which are true, but that only were written TO those to whom they were written. James was not writing to the body of Christ at that time, as is proven by James 1:1. The slight of hand some people like to play with the epistle of James, always while excluding the timeframe for when it was written in relation to Paul and the revelation of the mystery that Christ revealed only to him AFTER James had written that epistle...therein is an example for the importance for that division that the willfully blind remain indifferent.

What James wrote was absolutely true, but only to those to whom he had written at the time it was written.

MM
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“What James wrote was absolutely true, but only to those to whom he had written at the time it was written.”

Lol just James ?
 
Pilgrimshope

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Musicmaster said:
John preached this:

Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Jesus preached this:

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Given that the Gospel preached at that time, to those people, one could indeed lose his salvation if he did not have and retain his faith, but that is not the case today. Not one place do the Gospels declare the "sealing" of Holy Spirit by grace through faith unto salvation. Instead, the Kingdom program required perseverance unto the end, just as Jesus declared.

Replacement theology has its followers believing that the body of Christ must also persevere, and some even claim that perseverance is divinely bestowed, even though they cannot show it from scripture without injecting into the text their Armenian beliefs. The Gospel of Grace is NOT what Jesus preached, nor was that the preaching of the eleven until after the Kingdom program was placed on hold.

So, there is a place and time for one to lose his salvation, but it's not under the Gospel of Grace. Those who pass into the tribulation on this earth, THEY will be those who will have to persevere unto the end.

MM
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“Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Jesus preached this:

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The knowledge of the lord is found in the gospel you seem Intent in removing
 
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