all sin is willful. it may be done in ignorance, but all sin is done as one is led by the lust in their heart.
If that is so ( And it is not) then everyone is damned to the eternal lake of fire because no one in this flesh ceases to sin...
all sin is willful. it may be done in ignorance, but all sin is done as one is led by the lust in their heart.
Of course. That's why the person who the question was asked didn't answer.How can one lose eternal life? Eternal life that is lost is a contradiction. Lost life can't be eternal. Eternal means forever.
So today i masturbated after being set free months ago and i know if i fought harder i could have overcome them these past 2 days i started getting sexual temptations in my mind and didnt want to sin but wanted the thoughts sometimes and probably willingly as well thought some of them and i knew it was a sin and i shouldnt do it and felt bad before i did it and i also struggle with weak faith and unbelief so yeah im just a case for nothing any help would be apperciated
I am in the same boat of worrying about that and other similar passages in the Bible, because I too willingly did what I knew to be sin after having known the truth and accepted CHRIST ALMIGHTY as GOD and SAVIOR, but unlike most believers i am not one to sugar coat reality or lie to myself. These are the end times and the great tribulation is very near, but the great tribulation begins with the great apostasy or the great falling away of believers to a false "savior" or "god" or any falsehood at all that removes them from true Christianity, and already many if not most believers believe many falsehoods and heresies and cling to them vigorously and stubbornly because they are things they want to hear instead of what is real.
Very understandable and complete response! Where did you get all those smarts? Thank you, and may you always carry the Word to us and all with such holy, simple truth.. God bless and keep you always.Fret not for we might sin after we are saved, but all we have to do is repent and not want the sin again and mean it, and move forward in the Spirit.
I doubt anybody after being saved did not sin, but if you are led of the Spirit that means you do not want sin, and a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, but if you sin you can repent and be forgiven and move forward in the Spirit again.
God knows the heart and if you are sincere in not wanting a sin, and doing the sin and repenting of it at the time, but want to do the sin again that is not repenting for you are not turning away from the sin.
But all sin can be forgiven even if you live in sin for a year and then do not want it you can be forgiven.
As we grow in Christ we will love Him more which helps us to not want to sin because we want to please Him.
But people that are new to Christ might struggle for a while but then might get on track.
The Bible says where much is forgiven they love more, and people that had much sin and terrible are forgiven so they love more, and are grateful.
Where someone that did not do anything seriously bad and not that frequent before coming to Christ might not love as much so they might struggle a little.
I believe the more we love God, and Jesus, the more we will not want to sin because God does not like sin.
Which the Bible says charity, love in action, will not think an evil thought, and will not rejoice in iniquity to enjoy sin, but will rejoice in the truth which is to hate sin.
The Bible also says some have a form of godliness but they deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Which they do not come to the truth because they hold on to sin because they want to enjoy it, and believe they are still right with God.
But the Bible says a Spirit led life will not sin but they want to make an excuse why they sin that they cannot abstain from sin, but really they want to enjoy the sin.
But the Bible says if a person sins wilfully after receiving the knowledge of sin then there is no more sacrifice for sin.
Which means if a person holds unto sin then the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin you hold on to.
If you believe you are not right with God when you sin then you are in the battle for salvation for at least you have the right attitude that you have to abstain from sin.
But if you sin it will be forgiven if you repent of it and mean it that you do not want the sin anymore, and we cannot fool God for He knows.
Paul got in Peter's face about an incident and said Peter was not walking in the truth of the Gospel so Peter did not do right at that time although he corrected it.
And Peter was the first person to be added to the Church built on top of Christ, and given the keys to heaven.
So do not be too hard on yourself but be hard enough to quit sinning.
But lusting after a woman, and sexual pleasure is a sin that many will have a problem and the devil uses that against people which you see in shows, and movies, and hear it in music, and I am sure that many had a problem with that for a while when they were first saved.
everyone is condemned already Jesus said John 3:17-19.If that is so ( And it is not) then everyone is damned to the eternal lake of fire because no one in this flesh ceases to sin...
What does the word of God sayIf that is so ( And it is not) then everyone is damned to the eternal lake of fire because no one in this flesh ceases to sin...
If you deny Christ as the Hebrews were warned if in the Hebrew letter, will you still be saved by him? Bottom line is you can lose your salvation. While alive its a promise not yet attained however and we must remain faithful unto death as the scripture says.
i woke up today, thanked God and asked for the overflow of the Holy Spirit.
i was determined to make this day a Sinless Day.
I then stepped onto one of my dog's broken down bone and when i skipped off the bone ran my foot into the corner of 2 adjoining walls, and balancing myself stubbed my big toe on my other foot.
before i could say, Thank You, Jesus!
i had a conversation with the wall that had it been another human would have been a poor example of a Follower of God.
so, my sinless day, ended within the first 10 minutes of my Sinless Day Plan!
I never said, I do not continuously strive to not Sin. I have been discussing Bible with people called Holiness Pentecostal. Basically, one can be sinless. So, today, ironically enough, because finding this Thread. But, i did wake up putting the i can go sinless for a day to the test. and like God wanted to show me it's not what i am able to do, and BOOM, a series of painful barefoot events took place and in the midst of throbbing pain and bloody toe nail, i wasn't so happy and tickled pink like a balloon sailing peacefully in the sky. nope, i was irate at my dog for placing that bone where i could only ever find it was by stepping onto it barefoot. and having the toes split apart where the corner of 2 walls connect was very pleasant to experience.If one believes you can't lose your salvation then is there a desire not to do sexual sin? Or even worry about it? Or are we to live a life of self-control and demonstrate we have the fruits of the Holy Spirit in our lives?
The bottom line? where in Hebrews 10. 26. does it say you can lose your salvation? are you going to add a bottom line?If you deny Christ as the Hebrews were warned if in the Hebrew letter, will you still be saved by him? Bottom line is you can lose your salvation. While alive its a promise not yet attained however and we must remain faithful unto death as the scripture says.
YesDoes anyone have any scriptures that will help this individual (or any individual faced with temptation) to battle their temptation(s)?
The bottom line? where in Hebrews 10. 26. does it say you can lose your salvation? are you going to add a bottom line?
If you were relying upon your faithfulness or your ability to be or to remain faithful unto death when you came to the cross I tell you the truth you would not be saved on that basis
Surely you came to the cross utterly bankrupt, wretched, without hope and without God. Now the trick is to stay there
At the cross, utterly bankrupt. If you are now saying you are depending upon your faithfulness, your ability to remain faithful unto death, you are already fallen from grace [I am not saying you are not saved] But you are no longer relying solely upon Christ and His cross, you've gone back to trying to save yourself.
You are not relying upon HIS promise, you are relying upon YOUR promise. Your promise didn't save you at the first and it won't save you at the end.
At the cross we can become whatever God makes us to become, we can be whatever God makes us to be. We can become holy, righteous, whole in our mind and body, we can become rich in goods.
We came in rags and He have clothed us in beautiful garments of salvation.
Do not I pray you go back to your rags of self righteousness.
To go back to your own faithfulness, is to do the very thing Hebrews 10. 26 is warning you not to do. It is a denial of Christ and His cross as your only hope. You won't lose your salvation but you will fall from grace into works.
You assume too much, Tasting is not imbibing. I have shared the gospel and SEEN the light come on in the eyes, people BELIEVE, they even attach themselves to us, they may even receive answers to prayer, be miraculously blest.You do realize that Hebrews 10:26 is not the entirety of the Hebrew letter, right? Read the whole thing! And read all of 10 not just verse 26 as though it were a stand alone.
Hebrews 6:5-6
"4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."
So, if a person once enlightened as they were (they were newly converted Christians), were to fall away, and the text says it's impossible to renew them again unto repentance, what does that mean? If one were to renounce Christ as they were being cautioned not to do as it would again crucify Christ openly, and thereby could not be renewed unto repentance, they obviously being in that state would no longer be saved but lost! That means losing salvation they once had.
You assume too much, Tasting is not imbibing. I have shared the gospel and SEEN the light come on in the eyes, people BELIEVE, they even attach themselves to us, they may even receive answers to prayer, be miraculously blest.
But they draw back at the all important step of receiving Christ, they do not get born again.
Judas would have been able to tick all those boxes but he never was saved.
you do not stick strictly to the text ... you add your logic to it.I assume nothing. I'll stick with the text, all of it, and the logic inherent therein.
Your words alone mean nothing. The text is clear if you're able to read and understand. Believe what you like, say what you like, but it won't change the words of scripture. Goodbyeyou do not stick strictly to the text ... you add your logic to it.
You didn't read the remainder of the parable because you read "go into the highways and the hedges and COMPEL them to come in" which kind of contradicts your idea about human freewill.I mean you no offense, but I honestly am not following your logic, unless you are a Calvinist who believes that God chooses who will be saved apart from their mutual consent or without them having any free will choice or say in the matter.
From my vantage point, and it is a vantage point which can be seen throughout the entirety of the Bible, the relationship between Christ and the church is likened to a marriage covenant. A covenant is a willful agreement, or an agreement between two consenting parties, and especially a marriage covenant. If not, then Christ has abducted his bride against her will. I do not know if you adhere to such a belief or not because I do not know any of your beliefs beyond what you have expressed in this thread, but I can assure you that I definitely do not believe that. Instead, I believe that, in a figurative sense, we are invited by God to enter into a Divine marriage covenant with his son, Jesus Christ, and we can either willfully accept or willfully reject the invitation. For example, I believe that this exact scenario is shown to be true here:
Matthew 22:1-9
"And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage."
I did not quote the entire parable for the sake of space, but we clearly see here that God is inviting or bidding people, first Jews, and then Gentiles, to a marriage for his son, and those who were bidden had the option of either accepting or rejecting the invitation. Because people were given the option to either accept or reject God's invitation, does this make Christ any less the Bridegroom? No, it does not.
Carry this same principle over to salvation which is what the marital covenant represents.
God offers salvation to everyone through Christ, and we have the free will option or choice to either accept or reject his gracious offer.
If we accept God's offer, does that make Christ any less the Savior? Of course, it does not. It simply means that we chose to receive him as our Savior.
Well, what if we reject God's offer? Does that make Christ any less the Savior? Again, of course, it does not. It simply means that we chose to reject him as our Savior to our own peril.
That seems pretty cut and dry to me all throughout the Bible.
The short answer is that Jesus died, was buried, rose again, and ascended back to the Father's right hand in order to save us or redeem us from our sins and bring us back into right standing with our heavenly Father. Not everyone is going to receive him as their Savior though, unless you believe in "Universalism". Assuming that you are not a Universalist, then does Christ cease from being the Savior just because many will ultimately reject him as such? Of course, he does not, so I really do not follow your line of reasoning unless you adhere to either Calvinism or Universalism, and I fully reject both of them.