Calvinists do barrel fishing. Christians convert the unsaved, calvinists convert the saved.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge.
1 Corinthians 3 v 19-21a, 1 Corinthians 1 v 19 ~ The wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.” And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” Therefore, stop boasting in men. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
That is why I come here.
It's like a spiritual gymnasium.
I come here to exercise my faith to discover what I have learned and can put into experience.
Sometimes... I walk away, saying to myself....
.......... " Wow. I really did learn something from all that teaching that I now can know has actually become one with me."
Until tested?
It was hidden and dormant and seemingly forgotten about.
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Calvinists of today somehow construe the thought that a man is regenerated before he is saved, in order to become saved.
Hopefully. I know better now than to guess and assume.
Having been shown numerous times by my pastor how the Greek language can mention several things in a passage, but the construct of a word will point to only one of the things mentioned.
It makes you sit there stunned to see how God provided.
Yet, too many want to run with what they will provide for themselves.
You just contradicted yourself. If God's grace was effectual, it would literally accomplish what God desires since NOTHING (including man's "freewill") can thwart, obstruct or compromise God's PURPOSE! In 1Tim 2:4, God does accomplish his purpose since "all" men should be understood as "all" w/o distinction due to the context of the passage.
Well that's the point. Why didn't God do the BRAVE thing and jump in and save the DROWNING person before he went down the third time? Did the Good Samaritan "jump in and save" the half-dead man or did he simply provide an opportunity to participate in his own salvation by writing instructions to the nearest hospital and pinning it to the guy's chest in case he ever regained consciousness.
You are not allowed to say this to someone who believes that they did everything and thus earned God's mercy!
You must find joy in telling others how to raise their children. However, I think that it is highly unlikely that Cameron will take advice from you.
She thinks it wise to advise those she disagree with to go preach in cemeteries because she is so confused
about what it is to be spiritually dead. Then she denies conflating being spiritually dead with physically dead.
YES! What is YOUR personal, spiritual problem with this truth? In your world it would be far better for God's grace to be ineffectual so that the vast majority of people can reject it, not believe the gospel and suffer in the lake of fire forever, rather than His grace be effectual that enables belief so that the believer can spend eternity with his loving, compassionate and merciful Creator and Redeemer?
In your universe, it would be better for God to go through the motions of offering mere salvation opportunities rather than actually pulling anyone's bacon out of the fire.
And what part of Act 18:27 don't you get? The text doesn't say that Apollos was a great help to those who believed by their "freewill" choice.
It really seems they think that God doing what is best for us is really not what is best for us.
Of course when it infringes on their self-exalting idol of free will they make a monster
out of God rather than acknowledging He really does know best. It is quite perplexing!
Then again, I really don't think they see all the ways they contradict themselves.
Your skin must crawl and gnarl whenever truth refutes your viewpoint.
Your answer screams don't leave me in the sunlight I am melting
You haven't refuted anything! You're delusional. Besides...my only authority for determining what is true and what isn't doesn't rely on fallible, finite church fathers; rather on the infallible, eternal Word of God.
They love to believe that they are autonomous beings who know what is best for their own lives.