Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Do have some strange compulsion to click “Post reply” before proofreading? Many of your recent posts contain random occurrences of the letter ‘m’.

As for the content of your post, mercy is not getting what you deserve (death for sin). It has nothing to do with enabling.
in your eyes mercy is not getting what you deserve only.

And m means mate

Mercy also mean merciful

Mercy also mean having compassion something you can have one minute but not the next.

Mercy also mean I can say thankyou for your post

When a sinner is not saved

The first that happens is This.
father will have mercy upon him, are you filled with the spirit then and there.. well no your not.
But you still have his mercy in you going to work

That mercy is the first mercy

Then theres more mercy to come

And what mercy may that be where does it come from and who gives you it.


I wonder if you can answer for once, whilst I'm being merciful to you.
 
The prayer of the pre-birth sovereign lottery chosenite.......?
I mean, what other prayer could reasonably be offered?

Luk 18:11
“The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.


Perhaps the "super determinist" clan has thrown in the towel... perhaps even conceded defeat! lol

But like you say, they are wrong right out of the gate, did they really have a solid position. Nope.
 
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when tempted


No one should say God is tempting them


Question

.what makes you think a bible scholar like John Calvin wouldn't know this
in your eyes mercy is not getting what you deserve only.

And m means mate

Mercy also mean merciful

Mercy also mean having compassion something you can have one minute but not the next.

Mercy also mean I can say thankyou for your post

When a sinner is not saved

The first that happens is This.
father will have mercy upon him, are you filled with the spirit then and there.. well no your not.
But you still have his mercy in you going to work

That mercy is the first mercy

Then theres more mercy to come

And what mercy may that be where does it come from and who gives you it.


I wonder if you can answer for once, whilst I'm being merciful to you.

Mercy and Grace aren't the same.

I sense some fruits here are from another tree, not the tree of life.

I am referring their fruits from tree of knowledge good and evil.
 
Ring a ding ding

Mercy is abundant in his eyes to the saved and unsaved

Where is his mercy Abundant that demonstrates his grace.

By his word
 
Let me tell you something 😏 don't be like your father below:

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
let me tell me you something he who exalts himself will be humbled

And if your not then you are of the father your devil
 
Perhaps the "super determinist" clan has thrown in the towel... perhaps even conceded defeat! lol

But like you say, they are wrong right out of the gate, did they really have a solid position. Nope.
I think we all have shown how absurd and ridiculous Calvinism/RT is. I don’t expect them to change, but they cannot say they have not heard the truth of the error of what they believe. Pack it up and call it a win. We have showed that Calvinism builds a system where: God can only accomplish His plan if every person does exactly what Calvinists say was “eternally decreed.” Calvinism paints a picture where God can only accomplish His will if He forces every step of the way, which logically makes Him responsible for everything: sin, evil, rebellion, abuse, betrayal, unbelief — ALL of it. They try to escape that by saying: “God is sovereign.”
“It’s a mystery.” “His ways are higher.” But that doesn’t solve the problem. It merely hides it behind fog. In the end, we have exposed their contradictions, absurdities and inconsistencies. So, they may not change, but they cannot say they haven’t heard the truth about the logical consequences of their doctrine.

In true Calvinism, every choice must be pre-caused by God, otherwise the plan might “fail”, prophecy might “collapse”, human rebellion might “thwart” His will. In other words, they believe God is only sovereign if He micromanages every detail beforehand. In true Calvinism, there is no room for God to work through human freedom (free will), because if humans actually made real choices, Calvinism fears: something might happen that He didn’t decree, someone might disobey and throw off the storyline, God might have to respond wisely in real time instead of coercively determining everything from eternity. In their system, God isn’t allowed to be wise. He has to be a micromanager. Calvinism equates God’s sovereignty with divine micromanagement, as if God’s wisdom, power, and providence are too weak to handle a world with humans who have free will.
 
I think we all have shown how absurd and ridiculous Calvinism/RT is. I don’t expect them to change, but they cannot say they have not heard the truth of the error of what they believe. Pack it up and call it a win. We have showed that Calvinism builds a system where: God can only accomplish His plan if every person does exactly what Calvinists say was “eternally decreed.” Calvinism paints a picture where God can only accomplish His will if He forces every step of the way, which logically makes Him responsible for everything: sin, evil, rebellion, abuse, betrayal, unbelief — ALL of it. They try to escape that by saying: “God is sovereign.”
“It’s a mystery.” “His ways are higher.” But that doesn’t solve the problem. It merely hides it behind fog. In the end, we have exposed their contradictions, absurdities and inconsistencies. So, they may not change, but they cannot say they haven’t heard the truth about the logical consequences of their doctrine.

In true Calvinism, every choice must be pre-caused by God, otherwise the plan might “fail”, prophecy might “collapse”, human rebellion might “thwart” His will. In other words, they believe God is only sovereign if He micromanages every detail beforehand. In true Calvinism, there is no room for God to work through human freedom (free will), because if humans actually made real choices, Calvinism fears: something might happen that He didn’t decree, someone might disobey and throw off the storyline, God might have to respond wisely in real time instead of coercively determining everything from eternity. In their system, God isn’t allowed to be wise. He has to be a micromanager. Calvinism equates God’s sovereignty with divine micromanagement, as if God’s wisdom, power, and providence are too weak to handle a world with humans who have free will.
I hear your Calvie bells ringing again maybe it was dicreed 😁😁
 
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Nice question for you asked freely with a kind gesture.

Question

Could you see that when you read this.

Where can I find

But where can I go from your spirit and where can I flee from your presence, means the holy spirit is everywhere

And that means he who exalts themselves will be humbled.

Which means the holy spirit will convict the world, the whole world of there sin.

Which means all will be humbled
 
I think we all have shown how absurd and ridiculous Calvinism/RT is. I don’t expect them to change, but they cannot say they have not heard the truth of the error of what they believe. Pack it up and call it a win. We have showed that Calvinism builds a system where: God can only accomplish His plan if every person does exactly what Calvinists say was “eternally decreed.” Calvinism paints a picture where God can only accomplish His will if He forces every step of the way, which logically makes Him responsible for everything: sin, evil, rebellion, abuse, betrayal, unbelief — ALL of it. They try to escape that by saying: “God is sovereign.”
“It’s a mystery.” “His ways are higher.” But that doesn’t solve the problem. It merely hides it behind fog. In the end, we have exposed their contradictions, absurdities and inconsistencies. So, they may not change, but they cannot say they haven’t heard the truth about the logical consequences of their doctrine.

In true Calvinism, every choice must be pre-caused by God, otherwise the plan might “fail”, prophecy might “collapse”, human rebellion might “thwart” His will. In other words, they believe God is only sovereign if He micromanages every detail beforehand. In true Calvinism, there is no room for God to work through human freedom (free will), because if humans actually made real choices, Calvinism fears: something might happen that He didn’t decree, someone might disobey and throw off the storyline, God might have to respond wisely in real time instead of coercively determining everything from eternity. In their system, God isn’t allowed to be wise. He has to be a micromanager. Calvinism equates God’s sovereignty with divine micromanagement, as if God’s wisdom, power, and providence are too weak to handle a world with humans who have free will.


Yes they make God responsible for evil and then try to rationalize it.

Not one Calvinist on this thread condemned the words by Sproul Jr. when he stated that a 10 year old girl, who was raped and tortured, received her correct judgement.

See this post.

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Actually it was Satan's sin that started this whole thing off. With his rebellion then decided to thow a monkey wrench into mans relm as well. If he wasent whispering in the woman's ear would things of happened the way they did? Dosent matter either way Adam and eve listened to a snake and not God. Here we are.

But Satan is neither the Federal Head of the human race or is he charged with bringing sin and death into this world! That all falls onAdam (Rom 5:12).
 
God is Good full stop

If what you say is true, then we have a problem; for scripture says that God works all things for the good of those who love Him (Rom 8:28). So explain, please, how God works good for all the wicked, God-hating evil-doers in this world.
 
in your eyes mercy is not getting what you deserve only.

And m means mate

Mercy also mean merciful

Mercy also mean having compassion something you can have one minute but not the next.

Mercy also mean I can say thankyou for your post

When a sinner is not saved

The first that happens is This.
father will have mercy upon him, are you filled with the spirit then and there.. well no your not.
But you still have his mercy in you going to work

That mercy is the first mercy

Then theres more mercy to come

And what mercy may that be where does it come from and who gives you it.


I wonder if you can answer for once, whilst I'm being merciful to you.
You're being merciful to me? How so?

Mercy and compassion are not the same thing. Being merciful is showing mercy. Saying "Thank you" is not being merciful.

Since you assert there is more mercy, you already know the answer you want, so I see no need to offer an answer you will likely reject.
 
If what you say is true, then we have a problem; for scripture says that God works all things for the good of those who love Him (Rom 8:28). So explain, please, how God works good for all the wicked, God-hating evil-doers in this world.
Job is more than likely the start of satans rebellion before he was cast down
 
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