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Because Jesus said no one can come to Him unless the Father draws them. Thoughfaith says this is no longer true I see nothing in the Bible where it says John 6;44 and Mark 10:27, will or have ceased to be true If you can find a place where that is said, I will gladly change my position

You are saying a lot of things that the bible doesn’t say. Just take the text for what it says. Do not add. Do not take away The Bible does not say people don’t come because God prevents them. God prevents no one. The Bible does say that no one is able to come unless the Father draws them...

And the same is true today. You think you believed all by your lonesome, not realizing that God drew you.

I agree.

Yes. Jesus died for all men.

No.

We no man is able to come to me...unless the Father draws Him

No. Moral inability is not based on God’s drawing. Why would you suppose that? God doesn’t draw people to sin.

What about it? I guess if I don’t comment on every chapter of the Bible...?

What did Jesus say was impossible in Mark 10 What did He say they were not able to do in John 6?

If I really love my wife and children, I am unable to leave them. It doesnt mean it’s physically impossible, it means it is morally impossible and unthinkable, as long as my love is true and real. Some things are impossible because it is not in our nature. But if something happens to affect...

Same thing as the rich young ruler And Jesus said “ with man impossible, but with God all things are possible Same thing as the folks in John 6. And Jesus said no one is able to come unless the Father draws them Inability based on love of sin and unwillingness to come.

The Pharisees heard the scriptures constantly. Yet most of them did not come.

Yes. And John 6 said that those who are drawn come and John 12 does not mention if they come or not, right?

The Father and Spirit were active in the incarnation. Not inactive. Yet you have the Spirit inactive (not working) while the Father and Son are drawing. See how that works.

So then.... The Pharisees who didnt believe didn’t understand or recognize the scriptures than, right? Because it takes more than reading, and studying, and hearing the scriptures to understand them RIGHT?!! What else does it take?

That’s funny. No, Jesus did not say He was a champion figure skater because He wasn’t. What did you think you just proved?

you. I’m not dividing persons. Just roles. You’re the one who claimed the persons of the Trinity act while others are not active.

Why didn’t they believe? What was preventing them. They were unwilling and unable. Just like the rich young ruler. Read John 5:40.

Well, He didn’t, did He?