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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Diatasso means to command or prescribe. Ordaining in the sense of prescribing something is not the same thing as ordaining in the sense of an eternal decree, which is what we were discussing. You took a word with more than one meaning and changed its meaning from a meaning that fits the context...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You asked me the question while we were talking about God’s eternal purposes, and then you slipped a verse from an English translation that uses the word ordain in a completely different sense than the way it would be used in the context of our discussion. That is an equivocation fallacy...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Do you know what equivocating means? What was the context of your question? What were we discussing? Prescriptive will of God or His eternal purposes? If you confuse the two, you’ll end up in a mess.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    No I was referring to Jacobus Arminius.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Did God plan on adopting you before you believed?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Nice equivocation there. We were speaking of things that God decrees and you slipped a verse about something that God prescribes.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Huge differences between the two.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Yes. Everything God ordains comes to pass. That was easy.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I agree. So God knew that you would believe and He knew that you would be adopted before you believed.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    This is getting silly. I don’t believe God is a micromanager, but on the other hand, I don’t know what might come from this conversation, what kind of effects it may have, good or bad, so I do not know the answer to your question Does God ordain which shirt I wear? Doubt it. I do know that...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    On election and predestination, my view is similar to Arminianism. But I learned these things before I knew what Jacobus taught, and I was not taught them by a preacher either, but by studying the Word. At the time, my pastor thought I was too Calvinistic.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So then God knew this discussion was going to happen before it happened, right?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    On God’s Omniscience? No, that is pretty much the consensus among the vast majority of Christians.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So I agree with let go. Don’t rely on your own strength. Let God’s Spirit produce fruit in you. Find rest in Jesus, our Sabbath Rest. Cease from your own works as God ceased from His. Be secure in His Grace. Rest in His promises... But keep seeking, and keep learning, and keep stretching and...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Yep. Read it and see. Check Acts 4:28 and Rev 13:8 too
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Closet open theist?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I don’t know if it was predestinated, but it was definitely foreseen by God.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Actually, in my Greek NT ´ιησους is the name above every name.