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John never used the word "body" to describe the church. SO I guess the church is not the body.

Romans 8:28 speaks of predestination to glorification. You don't seem to realize that all of these categories fall under the main category of salvaiton. Regeneration, Justification, adoption, sanctification, kept by the power of God, glorification, are all part of the same package. Believers...

WELL SAID

The Apostle John was Catholic? We confess our sins to God, in obedience to 1 John 1:9. Not to a priest on earth. Christ is my only Priest. 1 John was clearly written to believers, despite what Budman said.

Predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. That is completed at our glorification.

AMEN!

Counted for and imputed mean the same thing.

1 John 1:9 says we are forgiven and cleansed when we confess our Sins.

Everything in Romans 8:28-30 has happened to believers except glorification, though we are seated with Christ presently.

Greater is He that is in unbelievers than He that is in the world? I write unto you unbelievers, because your sins have been forgiven? You unbelievers have an unction from the Holy One? Really?

You’re predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ, to an adoption, and to an inheritance. And according to Romans 8:28-30, predestination is before justification.

TF implies Jesus is not his shepherd

You’re the master of false dichotomies.

We were chosen in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in love, having been predestinated (aorist participle)unto the adoption of children...we were predestinated unto the adoption of sons when we were chosen in Him...which was before the foundation of...

So did you answer the question you replied to. And I’m not a Calminian.

What does the question of “ when was I in Him” have to do with Ephesians 1:4-5. We have already established that we were not saved before time, so it is an irrelevant question. A. We were not in Christ before we were born B. Paul said the events in Ephesians 1:4-5 took place before the...

How did we believe before the foundation of the world? Verse 4-5 are things that took place before the foundation of the world.

Where do you see the word “receive” in Ephesians 1:4-5? Where do you see any verb performed by us in those verses. We do nothing in these verses. It’s all God’s actions.

What does in Christ mean in Ephesians 3:11? To show you that “in Christ” has more than one usage.

Paul and Peter both talk about foreknowledge. So it’s a stumbling block for you, not for me because you don’t believe or else don’t understand their writings In addition, Paul lists foreknowledge and predestination before justification in Romans 8:28-30. If foreknowledge and predestination were...