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Read Romans 8:33-34 Who is Christ interceding for in Romans 8:34?

So are you saying Romans 8 is written to and only applies to Jews? Because Paul refers to them as elect.

We are Predestinated before being conformed. So you have demonstrated nothing. So again I ask, where does the Bible say predestined after justification?

He is writing about God’s active and all surpassing love for His Elect. And Paul wasn’t boasting over the Gentiles saying, we have all of this and you don’t. Because Jew and Gentile believers are all ONE IN CHRIST. By the way, that is what the OIC into moniker stands for. One in Christ.

Where does the Bible teach that predestination follows justification?

But in your paradigm only some of the New Testament is for any individual, based on whether he or she is Jewish or not. The epistles of Peter don’t apply to me because he wrote primarily to Jews and I am a gentile. Jews are Christ’s sheep and Gentiles aren’t, according to you When Paul called...

Paul is writing to the elect in Romans 8:28 to end of chapter. That is the context. So you apparently think these verses only apply to Jews. What a mess you’re making!!

How can you be predestined to adoption and inheritance while your justification is still a maybe yes, maybe no? It’s a ludicrous thought.

So God predestined us to adoption and inheritance and justification was an afterthought? Lol.

so Romans 8:28 to the end of the chapter applies only to Jews? I don’t think so.

It’s referring to the entire scope of salvation. You see salvation only as conversion. That is a very one dimensional view of what salvation means.

So Jewish Christians should ignore Paul and gentile Christians should ignore Peter, because of their recipients?!! You have dismembered the New Testament and severed it from itself.

There are not two classes of Christians, only one. Galatians 3:28. You have one Bible for Jewish Christians and one for Gentile Christians. Bah!! Away with that nonsense.

Maybe Paul was talking about a flock of seagulls instead of sheep?

Straight to heaven.

Philippians 1:6. Read the Bible more instead of polemics by Flowers and others.

Who was the Apocalypse written to? Not Israel.

I don’t want to use a direct quote by Paul?

Check Acts 20:28-29 Silenced that error.

Are you sure about that? Acts 20:28-29