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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    No. The Greek New Testament response check this. According means in accordance with, right. So God has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in accordance with the fact that He chose us. In accordance indicates that the things that accord follow and proceed from what they are in accordance...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    According means “ in accordance with” or in agreement with. He blessed us with all spiritual blessings in Christ in accordance with the fact that He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. the choosing is the cause of the blessings.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    But He chose you before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:4-5.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    We have already discussed the various uses of the preposition “in”. Did you forget?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So you were in Him before the foundation of the world. Eph. 1:4-5?!!
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    As I have said a hundred times. Ephesians 5 is talking about what took place before time. Salvation happens in time. You can’t escape the words “ before the foundation of the world”. Besides, God loved us before He saved us, right? And salvation is a result of His prevenient love, right?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Verse 5 explains election. Verse 6 explains predestination. And so on. The passage is a list of blessings.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. Why do you keep ignoring part of the text?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You’re confused because you think some NT books are for Jews and the rest are for Gentiles. If you realized that all 27 books were for all believers, ie if you accepted the whole council of God, you would not believe the way you do.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Now you’re skipping down to a whole other chapter. But where did I say chosen to be converted? I said chosen in Him to be holy and blameless before Him in love. Which is what Paul said.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So you were not chosen to be holy and blameless before Him in love?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What I see is you reject God’s Foreknowledge and predestination as being before conversion ( even though they are listed before justification in Rom 8:29-30) without giving any reason to do so and without a scriptural basis for your rejection, and interpret every passage that deals with...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I didn’t exegete. I just agreed with the text, which is very clear.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You do one verse, skip down 8 verses, skip up 10 verses and then skip down 20 verses. That’s not exegesis. I didnt exegete or eisegete. I merely agreed with what the passage said.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You call this exegesis? Far from it. You jump from verse 5 all the way down to verse 13 then jump Back to verse 3 and then jump down to verse 23. That is not exegesis.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Which is what you did in your “explanation”. Eisegesis.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Exactly what it is saying. I don’t need to make verses say what they don’t say. Most of the time, the Bible is quite clear and not that hard to understand. Unless you don’t like what it’s saying...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You kept saying it was bad to say that. Why? I don’t know.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    My explanation of the verse ended with a period. I am fully aware of the fact that Paul uses long sentences. But I said period because nothing more needed to be said to explain the verse It’s self explanatory...unless you’re unwilling to accept what it plainly says.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I said foreknowledge, right? Did God foreknow all things? Where did that knowledge exist? Perhaps in His mind?