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Acts 2:23.

I don’t have to type several paragraphs to explain the text. I accept what it says and don’t need to add or take away anything. So to explain the text...God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love. Period.

Correct. But the Crucifiction of Christ was in the mind of God since when? Since it happened or before it happened? Before. So what's wrong with things being in the mind of God before they happen?

Foreknowledge in the mind of God... Acts 2:23 Not gnostic, btw.

Yep, and the Bible says that we were chosen in Him before the foundation of the world, HAVING BEEN predestinated...etc.

Which is speculation? That the crucifiction did not always exist or that it always was in the mind of God? Which one do you think is speculation?

Did the crucifiction always exist? Was it always in the mind of God? You have a problem, because you claim that something existing in the mind of God before it exists is Gnosticism. That is erroneous of you to think that. Everything that exists was in the mind of God before it existed. If...

I added nothing. Ephesians 1:5 says before the foundation of the world. So who is foreknown in Romans 8:29? And did that Foreknowledge exist in the mind of God or was it somewhere else?

Where does KNOWLEDGE and FOREKNOWLEDGE exist? In the mind, right? How simple is that. What's the beef with knowledge and foreknowledge existing in the mind of God, bub? Where else would it be? I guess saying that God's foreknowledge and His knowledge exists and existed in His mind is...

You said 'in the mind of God" is philosophy. Was Christ's crucifiction in the mind of God before it happened?

do the blessings include Christ as the Shepherd of our souls? Are all believers blessed in that way?

Are you calling the proposition that "God has a mind junk" or the proposition that "He has perfect foreknowledge" junk? Which propositon are you trying to debunk?

SO then Romans 8:28-30 has nothing to do with Gentile believers? IS that what you're saying? You are applying foreknowledge to God's knowledge of Israel in the past. So then calling, justification, and glorification are granted based on one's nationality now? Those who God foreknew, He...

I don't care if you don't believe that God has a mind or if you don't believe He has foreknowledge, or whatever your disconnect is. Answer the questions. I answer your questions, will you please answer mine?

No, but you can be foreknown and predestined before you receive the Holy Spirit and Christ. Convince me otherwise. SO where is the verse that says predestined after conversion?

So are you saying that you are not elect? Does that mean that Christ is not interceding for you and that Romans 8:29-the rest of the chapter, does not apply to you.

When did God chose and predestine us according to ephesians 1:4-5 Read it. According as He has chosen us in Him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, that we should be holy and blameless before Him in love; HAVING PREDESTINATED US (aorist participle)... Both electioh and predestination...

Who was foreknown in Romans 8:29

Can you be holy and without blame without salvation? ...and I'm still waiting for where it says Foreknowledge and predestination come after conversion.

SO then Romans 8:28-30 has nothing to do with Gentile believers? IS that what you're saying? Because if that is the meaning of foreknowledge, then Romans 8:29-30 only applies to Jewish converts. See how messy you are?