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Before you were born, God knew you would be born, knew you would be saved, knew how He was going to use you, knew He was going to adopt you, knew all these things But then had to wait around for you to believe to make those choices? If He knew all these things, doesn’t it follow that the...

So which one are you having trouble with? A, B, or C Because rejecting any one of the three denies Gods Omniscience and Sovereignty.

L I claim none of those things. I merely claim that the One True God foreknows all things, including who will be saved and how He will use them, and He works all things after the council of His Will. This is not about me glorifying man. This is about you reducing God to someone who is...

Did God know the plans He had for you before you got saved, or did He create them when you believed?

No, my approach is to not squeeze God into some mold that has to wait around until someone’s born to know they will exist, doesn’t need to wait around until someone is saved to foreknow them, had no idea how He was going to use His vessels and needs to wait until they get saved to decide how...

You’re the one who said “ NO ONE is predestined until they’re saved.” I showed you were wrong. I never said everyone is saved the same way as Paul. I just demonstrated that you put God in an artificial man made box. And yes, God does foreknow His children. Because He’s God, and He does...

Where do we have record of Johns words. Mostly in his writings So for your argument to stand, his writings would have to be solely written to the physical nation of Israel. Doesn’t preach, sir.

What evidence do you have that John only wrote to the nation of Israel What evidence do you have that the gospel and three epistles and the apocalypse were written to the nation of Israel. The epistles and apocrypha were written to churches, not a nation. I don’t understand your argument...

Here is the point. You or someone else said that Paul never said anything about Jesus being a shepherd, which I showed to be false. He did call Gentile believers part of the flock of God. My response was John never mentioned the body of Christ. You said that’s because he only preached to Jews...

Yes. Because that probably happened decades before John died. You don’t know what he did from approximately 50. AD to the nearly the end of the first century After all, God did say start in Jude a and work outward. Plus, it doesn’t matter, because your argument is based on the fact that John...

So the Jews are not part of the body of Christ?!! You and TF keep cutting Christ’s body and His testament into pieces. There is ONE BODY, ONE FAITH, AND ONE GOSPEL, not two of each!!

The scriptures give very little information about John’s post ascension ministry. Most of what is known or surmised about the twelve is from extrabiblical sources. We do know that the apocalypse was written to churches in Asia Minor. I see very little reason as well to think that John...

The problem is that John’s ministry was not limited to Jews. Nor was Paul’s ministry limited to Gentiles.

So God didn’t know Paul as a future adopted son until he got saved even though Paul was already a son by the new birth, but God didn’t foreknow him or predestine him until he got saved, yet he seperated him to be an apostle from his mother’s womb. Huh?

You’re getting away from your original statement. Johns ministry was to Jews and non Jews. Both.

Which do you want verses for? a. God knew you before you were born b. That He called you c. That He has a purpose for you. Which one are you having trouble with?

What is your basis of rejecting God's eternal foreknowledge of us, seeing that God chose someone before they were able to choose Him. So God had no idea that He was going to save you. You were a wonderful surprise for Him. God said "AWESOME, Throughfaith chose me, now I can choose him back!!!"

Was God's choice of Paul based on His foreknowledge of Paul or purely and entirely on God's Sovereign CHOICE.

God chose Paul before Paul ever thought of choosing God. In his mother's womb. How do you get around that?

So why did seperate Paul from his mother's womb? Because his parents were so special? No. SO it doesn't matter that he was seperated from his mother's womb. It was a calling that was not based on anything he or anyone else did. His apostleship was purely by God's Soveriegn choice. And it's...