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He loved ' us ' by dying for ' us ' Whilst we ( everyone without exception) were yet sinners . Amen .

The first line ( which is scripture) in your statement above literally refutes the rest of what you say ' God is pleased to save them that believe. ' This shuts down everything you say after it .

Conviction of the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation, but occurs to sinners alike, regardless of consequent faith or unbelief. It is not irresistible or unconditionally selective. (Jn. 16:7-11) Grace is a ubiquitous reality, not a selective force. (Tit. 2:11-13) Grace is just fine on...

I don't believe I have a verse that says that's how God is dealing with people today. like how it says in hebrews how he spoke in times past through prophets ect .

Why do you say they can't believe, because they can't please God ? Which verse SAYS this?

Matt 1 is before the cross . Which is a handy verse for a calvinist . But the focus is Israel ( He came to his own ) Now read 1 John 2:2 “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

No I rely on scripture alone . Thats why I asked for the verse . Prior to being saved I would say Gods grace is equal to All , universally. I believe God does respond differently to unsaved people. like hearing thier prayers ( Cornelius) ect . But the ' light ' and conviction is equal to all ...

Just on how God was working in your life prior to you being saved was my point .

I know Armianism ( soft Calvinsm) teaches that because of " foreknowledge 'God knows those who would believe and because of this sends all the ' means ' to them in keeping with that he knew you would believe ect . Its no different to Calvinism. Its just election to salvation, with a twist. The...

Saved people yes .

Which verse ?

Only in the sense of the same things you and every human that comes into the world receives . Saved or unsaved in the end .

God is pleased to save them that believe. Yes why not believe this ?Do you see what you do when you come across a verse that literally says God is pleased when somenone believes . You don't believe it . Not because there's a verse that says a person cannot believe. Yes this would be a cause to...

No I have a verse which says God is pleased to save those that believe. 1 cor 1 .21 . I have another verse that says we're saved after we believe and after we trusted. Clear verse . Are you ready to read it and believe it ? let's see .. Brace yourself ,this is difficult I know . 13¶In whom...

That's not a bible verse . Thats you being an avatar for the paradigm.

calvinism is just clever philosophical reasons for why the bible is not true. Post hoc rationalization bingo ! lol

Again . Do you have a verse that SAYS they CANNOT believe the Gospel ? I'm really not being unreasonable here . This is how it works. We should only believe what it says when it comes to these basic essentials.

That would help .

Yes I believe exactly what it SAYS . It doesn't SAY ..' can't believe the Gospel '. Get it ? Literally it doesn't say that does it ? Could God not say it ? does he have to use inference so that theologians would need to help him ?

Good point but the issues are the same on here lol