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  1. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Nehemiah did indeed define the meaning of the rapture. Go back and read it.
  2. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I never said that they were the same. I'm in agreement with you.
  3. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    To be sure, those who worship the beast, his image and receive his mark would definitely be apostasy. However, I was speaking in general. If a believer falls back into the sinful nature, if he repents and continues in faith, then his sins will be forgiven and he is restored. But if that person...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I do know what to say. There is no scripture which supports two different bodies.
  5. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Actually, this body is what is going to be changed into that new body. Again, Jesus is the example. When the women went to the tomb they did not find His body, because He was in the same body, albeit immortal and glorified. In support of this, two angels appeared to the women and said, "why are...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Correct John! I would clarify for the sake of those new Christians reading, that this has nothing to do with falling into sin while in your walk with Christ. The reference to 'Falling away' refers to complete apostasy, i.e. going back into living according to the sinful nature and dying in that...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    When the resurrection of the dead takes place, their bodies will be reanimated immortal and glorified. Immediately after that, those still alive in Christ will be changed immortal and glorified and will meet those who will have just resurrected in the air, where the entire church from beginning...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    The change that takes place in the twinkling of an eye, will be changing from this body that has pain, gets old and dies, to an immortal and glorified body and that in a nanosecond, not over a period of time. We will remain in these bodies with the sinful nature up until that event takes place...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    The coming wrath of God is not meant for the church. Jesus already satisfied God's wrath that every believer deserves, satisfying it completely. Therefore, the Lord is going to keep his promise to come and gather His church prior to God's coming wrath, not after or during. By your claim above...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Oh, but it does pertain to salvation! Hymeneas and Philetus were teaching that the resurrection had already taken place. And regarding them Paul said that it was godless chatter, that it would spread like gangrene and that they had wandered away from the truth and were destroying the faith of...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I see two who gave you a red disagree, who have no idea of what scripture teaches regarding this group event which includes the entire church dead and living and which takes place in close succession. Nor do many understand the definition of the word 'anastasis' translated as Resurrection. You'd...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Hello RevelationMan! Just fyi, 1 Thess.4:13-17 does not support an individual gathering of the church, but a group event of both the dead and living in Christ. Below is the scripture: ========================================================== 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th Week does NOT support Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism

    Correction! The decree was made by king Artaxerxes at the request of Nehemiah in 445 BCE. * Seven year covenant made with Israel by the ruler of the people (antichrist). * In the middle of the seven years, 'he' the ruler of the people/antichrist, causes the offerings and sacrifices to cease...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th Week does NOT support Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism

    Regarding "the Lamb looking as though it had been slain" is how God showed it to John in the vision. It points the reader to the fact that this description is referring to our Lord who was crucified. In the book of Revelation, one learns to discern between the symbolisms and what is literal...
  15. Ahwatukee

    The absurdity and heresy of Preterism

    First of all, what you stated above contradicts itself. If Christ reigns over his one and only kingdom on this earth, how then can it not be of this world. By saying "without observance" you are ignoring the plain meaning of scripture by misapplying it. Scripture supports that the thousand...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained?

    It is 70 weeks of years. Interpreting it as 70 literal weeks would find no fulfillment. Obviously you have never read Nehemiah and his request to Artaxerxes to go and rebuild Jerusalem. Since this request was around 445 BCE, then 70 literal weeks would find no fulfillment, one being the...
  17. Ahwatukee

    The absurdity and heresy of Preterism

    I guess you'll just have to be among those who will have to find out the truth the hard way, that is by experiencing it.
  18. Ahwatukee

    Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained?

    Utterly ridiculous! Interpreting it as being literal days does not fit the time-line criteria. According to your interpretation above, you would have the Anointed One cut off about a year and a half after Nehemiah and the Israelites restored and rebuilt Jerusalem. Completely unfounded, lacking...
  19. Ahwatukee

    The absurdity and heresy of Preterism

    Just because you interpret Revelation 20:1-7 as spiritual doesn't mean that it is correct. Your interpreting it as spiritual would have no basis whatsoever, other than by your own personal decision. By ignoring what the scripture is saying in the plain literal sense, you miss the meaning of...
  20. Ahwatukee

    The absurdity and heresy of Preterism

    What do you do with the following, Truth7t7? ======================================== Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand...