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  1. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    I believe that I described the meaning of "what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later" in the previous post. We are currently in the "what is now" part of what John was told to write and the "what must take place later" will begin after the church has been caught up.
  2. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Good day to you! The scripture that you bring up "For the great day of their wrath has come and who can endure it" is misinterpreted. How many interpret this is that, God's wrath only begins after this announcement and therefore does not include the previous seals. Regarding this, the same...
  3. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part II So, as I pointed out in my previous post, there are some differences in comparing Matt.24 to the 6th seal which cannot be ignored or written off as not being significant. You are correct, there is no difference between Jew and Gentile who believe in Christ which are those who...
  4. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Good day TruthSeekerJG! As the Lord returns to the earth to end the age, He sends out his angels to gather the saints who will have made it alive through the great tribulation period and are introduced in Revelation 7:9-17, as well as the remnant of Israel...
  5. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    That special group that yo mentioned above, is the church. And Jesus made a promise that He was going to the Father's house to prepare places for all believers and that He would come back to get us and take us to the Father's house to those places that He prepared for us. This event is going to...
  6. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part II Hello again, TruthSeekerJG! As I am sure that you will agree, both I Corinthians 15:51-53 and I Thessalonians 4:13-18 is referring to the event of the gathering of the church and which has nothing to do with Matthew 24. As I have continue to make known, it is important to not...
  7. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part 1 Hello TruthSeekerJG! All that you have listed above in red is regarding Israel. I would also think that this information would also be useful to the great tribulation saints. In regards to Israel, see the following: * The abomination that causes desolation standing in the holy place *...
  8. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    I'm saying that the RCC with one of its future popes as their leader, will play the part of the woman who rides the beast. Regarding feeding and clothing the poor etc., does not save anyone. We are saved by grace through faith and this not by our own selves. It is the gift of God, not by...
  9. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Hello TruthSeeker! Yes, that is correct! I believe that the church will be gathered prior to the first seal being opened, which initiates God's wrath, i.e. the seven year tribulation period, with the last 3 1/2 years referred to as 'the great tribulation.' I do not use a single scripture, but...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    The Bible also shows us that the church cannot go through the time of God's wrath, which will take place in conjunction to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. So, don't just pick and chose what you want to support what you have adopted, but include all of the related scripture. Right...
  11. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Those are the two horns like a lamb that you see. But his real agenda will be that of a dragon. The teachings of the Roman Catholic Church (RCC), is that the office of the pope has authority over all people or should have. Prior to 1798 the popes ruled over kings and their armies under the...
  12. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Hello Kim111! You have to ask yourself the question, does Prince Charles fit the description of being the antichirst? Regarding this Has he: * Established a seven year covenant with Israel? * Caused the sacrifices and offerings to cease * Set up an abomination in the holy place causing the...
  13. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    The identity of the antichrist has no bearing on the timing of the gathering of the church. It is after the gathering of the church that the first seal will be opened which is represented by that rider on the white horse, the antichrist. Regarding the pope being the antichrist, you are close...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I feel sorry for you DWR. By giving me a red disagree, you are saying that you believe that God's wrath is meant for the church. If only you guys would do an in-depth study on the seals, trumpet and bowl judgments which make up God's wrath, you would understand the severity of it and why the...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Hebrews 10:26.. what is it really saying?

    Hi John! My stand according to scripture, is that believers cannot just continue to live or go back to willfullly living according to the sinful nature as they did before they became believers. If 'Once saved, always saved' was true, then all of the warnings in scripture would be useless. The...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    If I haven't proved anything from scripture, then you just haven't been paying attention. I have gone beyond my contending for the truth in this matter. Therefore, you are free to believe whatever you desire. However, what you are currently believing is not the truth. I thank my God that His...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Hebrews 10:26.. what is it really saying?

    "If we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins remains, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume all adversaries." First of all, Hebrews is referring to Hebrew/Israelite Christians. We...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Hello Blade! The word 'apostasia' can be translated as 'departure,' however, it has to retain the original meaning from the Greek word from which it is derived. This word is only used twice, one in 2 Thess.2:3 and Acts 21:21 which is used in reference to Paul's teaching to 'Forsake' the Law of...
  19. Ahwatukee

    The absurdity and heresy of Preterism

    Does this nonsense ever end with these guys? It reminds me of Tim Lahaye teaching that there are two books of life and two groups of 144,000.
  20. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    "Because you have kept the word of My patient endurance, I also will keep you [out of] the hour of the trial being about to come upon the whole inhabited world, to try those dwelling upon the earth." In answer to your question "Removal from or preservation through," in the scripture above Jesus...