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  1. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part III As I have posted many times the "has come" in the 'aorist indicative active' tense which means that God's wrath in it's entirety is what is in view in the announcement and not just what follows. This is demonstrated in Rev.11:18 which also speaks of God's wrath in its entirety. You...
  2. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part II "Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus." Those being spoken of in Rev.12:17 are the great tribulation saints, which because of their faith, are...
  3. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part I You are correct! It says "that day" will not come, which must refer back to the time period mentioned in verse 2 which is 'the Day of the Lord." What most people don't catch is where in Thess.2:1, Paul mentions "the appearing of our Lord and our being gathered to Him and his change in...
  4. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Hello RevelationMan! In answer to holy people (hagios) in Rev.13:7, it is this group below introduced in Rev.7:9-17 ================================================================================ 9After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from...
  5. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Always my pleasure and calling! I just hope that biker understands it. Many have no idea of the severity and magnitude of God's wrath that is going to come upon this earth. Understand that, it is Jesus as the Lamb who is opening the seals, which leads into the trumpets, followed by the bowl...
  6. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Yes, we are the elect which is a term used for those whom God has chosen. But it does not mean that the Gentile believers become Israelites. Those who have the same faith as Abraham are the spiritual offspring of Abraham. But we are not Israelites.
  7. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Really?! Well, scripture would disagree with you! The 6th Seal: They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us f from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it. 7th Trumpet...
  8. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    No, I agree and teach that God predestined us and foreknew us and wrote our names in the book of life before the world began. What I don't agree with, is what you said about Gentiles becoming Israelites.
  9. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    As I said, all that Satan, the beast and the false prophet do, are all apart of God's wrath. He will be using them to fulfill his will during that time. It is not Satan's or man's wrath, but God's.
  10. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    "biker, post: 4300041, member: 295736"]But there is a verse in Matthew 24 where Jesus says AFTER TRIBULATION ENDS HE RETURNS! Therefore I have 1 verse and YOU have NONE! No, Gentile believers do not become Israelites. We share in the same blessings by having faith in Christ, but God does not...
  11. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Only in Gary's world could they mean something different.
  12. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Really? To be sure, there will indeed be a great white throne judgment at the end of the thousand years, but that is not the wrath that is spoken of. The wrath that is coming upon the earth, will be like no other time in history, unprecedented. By the time the Lord returns to the earth to end...
  13. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Hello Biker! The answer to your question, is because by the church being transformed in the twinkling of eye when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age, would put believers through the entire wrath of God. It would mean that the living church would be put through all of the seals...
  14. Ahwatukee

    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    The gathering of the church vs. the Lords return to the earth to end the age, are two separate events which take place at different times and with different purposes. In fact, those who will have previously been resurrected and caught up, will be with the Lord when He returns to the earth. The...
  15. Ahwatukee

    "Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

    Part I Good day, TruthSeeker! Paul wasn't warning the Thessalonians, he was comforting them. There were some there who were teaching that the Day of the Lord had already come, which is the time of God's wrath. The Thessalonians were writing to Paul because if the Day of the Lord had truly...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Questions about JW’s

    If by "both sides of the aisle" you mean true Christians and the JW's, no true believer and contender of God's word accepts the rendition of 'a god.' That aisle is one-sided. John 1:1 does not say "a god" but says "was God." 'a god' was added by the JW's and is a false interpretation to...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Questions about JW’s

    Hi Bluto! My bad! You are correct! I always get the two mixed up. Yes, it is the JW's who believe that Michael the archangel is Jesus and the Mormon's who believe that Jesus is the spirit brother to Lucifer. Either way, they preach another gospel and believe in another Jesus. My original point...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Questions about JW’s

    Greetings NOV25! We can nip this in bud before it gets going. That said, Adam's state is irrelevant in regards to whether or not JW are of Christ, which is the real issue. JW's believe that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer, which would make Jesus a created being and would make any other...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Obviously I can't tell who you are responding to. However, regarding the four kingdoms: Head of Gold = Babylon Chest and Arms of Silver = Medo/Persia Belly and thighs of Bronze = Greece Legs of Iron = Rome Ten toes of Iron = Extended/Revived Roman Empire (future) The ten toes correspond to...