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Good day, Lucy! Many people attempt to use the scripture you provided above to demonstrate that the church will remain on the earth and go through God's wrath up until the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. Let's look closely to what it is saying: For after all it is only just for God...

Those who are made alive each in their own turn is speaking about groups. Below is the scripture: "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the first-fruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him." First of all, the scripture is...

"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye I really want you to understand this RevelationMan. If you will look at 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 above, the "we will not all sleep" means that not everyone will be dead, i.e...

Once again, the change that takes place is from mortal to immortal, from the sinful nature, to the glorified state. At the time of the resurrection, all believers will be changed immortal and glorified and snatched up at the same instant. The scripture does not even hint at the idea of each...

============================================================ For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught...

Well, regarding the 144,000, I can only state what scripture says, which is that they are exempt from the torment of the 5th trumpet. That could very well be the case, but it doesn't state that they are protected from any other plagues of wrath. So where scripture is silent, then I am also...

My friend, by answer above, it tells me that you have not studied the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment and thereforef have no idea of the severity and their magnitude. With just the 4th seal and the 6th trumpet (a fourth and a third) over half the worlds population will have been killed. These...

Good day, Scribe! The only protection that I see is the woman/Israel who is cared for by God out in the wilderness during the last 3 1/2 years. The 144,000 out of Israel are excluded from the torment of the 5th trumpet The great tribulation saints however, are exposed to the seals, trumpets...

Hello RevelationMan! Regarding you claim above about "being 'changed' right now," please consider the what the scripture says about this: "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." Who = We...

The tribulation (last seven years) is all God's wrath. It is also known as "the Day of the Lord," which is a day of darkness, wrath and fierce anger. Scripture states that after Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven to the earth, he is angry. This does not mean that this time period is the...

But a mid or post tribulation gathering does pose a problem. The first seal being opened initiates God's wrath. Since Jesus satisfied God's wrath on behalf of all believers, then we cannot be on the earth during the time of God's wrath, which means that the Lord will gather His church prior to...

The 'one taken and the other left' represents to individual groups, the wicked and the righteous, not the same people split into two. It is speaking about the weeds (wicked) and the wheat (righteous) at the end age.

Very good points of scripture. I especially like verse 3. Those having any other belief than a pre-tribulation hope of the Lord's appearing, are looking for God's wrath to take place first, not His appearing.

This is typical to just respond with a red disagree without any scripture to back it up. Prove me wrong with scripture DWR.

One of the reasons for anything other than a pre-tribulation gathering of the church, is not understanding the underlying principle which Christ accomplished: "But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by...

One taken = the wicked The other left = The righeous The scripture is speaking in comparison to the wicked person vs. the righteous, not two bodies for one person. "At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat...

Lucy, you are correct that those who have died in Christ from the beginning of the church until now, are in heaven, but in their spirits. The word anastasis translated as resurrection, is defined as a bodily standing up again. It specifically has to do with the physical body. Therefore, for...

Two bodies is an assumption. By the way, it is not a secret gathering. It just that the event takes place in an amount of time that can't be divided. For all we know, at the time that the gathering takes place, an unbeliever could be having a conversation with his friend who is a Christian an...

Yes, but he also explained it

I believe according to scripture, that faith is the catalyst for salvation. If you go back into the world and willfully live according to the sinful nature, you have stopped having faith. That person has unplugged from God's grace. We are saved by grace through faith, from first to last...