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  1. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    I've already contended with others over the years who have attempt to use the "Rome was the entire world" claim. This is done to diminish the reality that scripture is speaking about the whole inhabited world, as if God isn't able to get that point across. Case in Point: when the fourth angel...
  2. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Why? Does there have to be other prophetic pauses in prophecy as a prerequisite for the seven year pause to be valid? However, as a matter of fact there is another pause in prophetic scripture. Compare Jesus' quote of Isaiah 61:1-2...
  3. Ahwatukee

    The dead don't know anything, and can't talk or praise the LORD

    I agree with you in that, no one is speaking to the spirit of someone who has died, because their spirits are either in the presence of the Lord or are down in Hades. If any spirit is coming and in the guise of someone who has died, then it would be demonic activity. The BODIES of those who...
  4. Ahwatukee

    End Times?

    What we are going see Kinda, is this RFID chip technology continue to evolve. Right now the RFID chip is about the size of a grain of rice and people are already using it to make purchases. That will continue on where at some point the device will become smaller and more applicable so that the...
  5. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Regardless of whether the trumpets are sounded in heaven, on earth or both does not matter. What you are attempting to do, is to get rid of the trumpets as being literal events, because you have no fulfillment of them. Therefore, if you can allegorize or symbolize them, you can get rid of their...
  6. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    You wrote all of that for nothing. The tribulation period is made up of the entire seven years, with the great tribulation being the last 3 1/2 years. This seven years will complete the seventy seven year periods that was decreed upon Daniels people Israel and Jerusalem. That time period is...
  7. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    Yet, you didn't even backup any of the claims you said about me with any proof at all. Give me an example of any of the things that you have accused me of. I'm thinking we have a troll here!
  8. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    I think that you are badly mistaken, sir! I have no hate language at all here on this forum. Again, along with where you assumed that I said that God has abandoned His people Israel, show me also where you have found any hate language from me in any post.
  9. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    You have made an erroneous assumption! Where did you get the idea that I said that God has abandoned His people Israel? I can assure that I have never said that in any post. I believe the opposite, that God has prophesies yet to be fulfilled for His people Israel. You ought to carefully read...
  10. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    This is completely false! You would be saying that we cannot trust in the word of God and therefore would have no way of knowing what God is really saying. That's bunk! Case in point, we have scripture regarding the mark of the beast and that prophecy is already here and is evolving. We already...
  11. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    The problem with this, is that Jesus is not mentioned in Daniel 9:27 which defines that las seven years: "[He] will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ h In the middle of the ‘seven’ [he] will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple [he] will set up an abomination that...
  12. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Hi Bud62! In Revelation 13, there are two beasts mentioned, the antichrist is the first beast and the second beast is the false prophet. These two have not yet been revealed. It is the antichrist/first beast, who receives the deadly wound, which he survives and which will be done for the...
  13. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Hi Yahshua! "For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short." Based on the scripture...
  14. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Totally agree with you on this. In opposition to those who are caught in that time of sudden destruction, of believers it says: "But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief. For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong...
  15. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    Morning Kinda! The reference to "Immediately after the tribulation" is when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. It has nothing to do with the gathering of the church. In fact, Revelation 19:14 shows the bride/church following Christ out of heaven on white horses. So, to have the...
  16. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    Amen! The sooner the better! The reference to being beheaded, is in regards to the great tribulation saints who are those who are introduced in Revelation 7:9-17 and will become believers after the church has been gathered and during the time of God's wrath. They will be on the earth because...
  17. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    The "trouble" that you referred to, is not common trouble which takes place because of our faith. But the trouble that is coming will be directly from God. As I told you, it is important for you and others to recognize the difference between the trials and persecutions that Jesus said believers...
  18. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    Hi Ruby! Obviously, since the Lord said that He would come like a thief in the night and that no one would know at what time He would come, then I could not nor would I ever proclaim a date. However, the Lord has given us clues in His word that let us know that the time is near. Something...
  19. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    That is why I told you ahead of time in the previous post that it is important to understand that there is a difference between suffering trials and persecutions which come at the hands of men and the powers of darkness vs. God's coming wrath. You're not understanding the difference between...
  20. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    By the way, I don't get my information from Google or youtube, but from scripture alone. It is also important to understand that there is a difference between the Lord's appearing to gather the church vs. the Lord's returns to the earth to end the age. The appearing of the Lord = The dead in...