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  1. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Scripture does not support the vials as only being the wrath of God. All you are doing is repeating a known erroneous teaching in order to support the belief that you have adopted. Consider the following scripture: "I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven...
  2. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Hello ewq1938! Here is the obvious problem with the catching away taking place at the second coming, i.e. when Christ returns to the earth to end the age. It would put the church through the entire wrath of God which will be taking place during that entire period via the seals, trumpets and...
  3. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Good day, Absolutely! Not everyone refusing the mark dies. The decree for those who will not worship the beast or his image will be death, but that does not mean that everyone is captured. If you have all of the saints die in the great tribulation, then there would be no Gentiles to enter into...
  4. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Well said, Blain! This is exactly the problem in that, many do not understand the severity and magnitude of God's coming wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. As an example, with just the fourth seal and sixth trumpet, the results will be the fatalities of a fourth and a third...
  5. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them...
  6. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    He wouldn't remember it anyway. :rolleyes:
  7. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    The word of God does not state that the gospel has to be preached before the end times can start. It says that this gospel will be preached in all the world and then the end will come, i.e. when Jesus returns to the earth to end the age. This is done in part in the following manner: "Then I saw...
  8. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Maybe the following will convince you: I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video "He also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands...
  9. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Good day, Child0fYAHSUAH! First of all, the first seal rider on the white horse symbolically represents the antichrist. He is a counterfeit of the rider on the white horse in Rev.19 who is the Lord. All of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments make up God's wrath. The words "the great day of...
  10. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    At the end of the age, when they Lord sends out His angels, they will be gathering those who will have made it through the entire tribulation period alive. What is not mentioned here in Matt.24:31, is that the angels will first collect the weeds/wicked as revealed in the wheat and weeds parable...
  11. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    Good day, BenjaminN! The saints who come out of the tribulation are those who become believers after the gathering of the church and during the time of God's wrath. They are not apart of the church, nor are they ever referred to as such. The wedding of the Lamb to His bride the church takes...
  12. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    God's wrath will be upon the entire earth. There will be no where to hide. Therefore, the great tribulation saints will also be exposed to God's wrath, as scripture makes clear: "Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat down on them,’ nor any scorching...
  13. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    It is not speculation when you make your conclusion based on all related scriptures. This is why we have God's word. Specific scriptures aside, and regarding the timing of the gathering of the church, there is an underlying principle here, which many do not take into consideration. Jesus took...
  14. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    Hold it! The saints in the great tribulation are not sealed by God and you won't find any scripture to that affect. Only the 144,000 out of Israel are said to be sealed in their foreheads. It is those who are currently in Christ and are watching and anticipating His return to gather the church...
  15. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Who said anything about scattered? The word is 'harpazo' which means to be seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively . The same word is used to describe when Paul was 'caught up' to the third heaven, and when the Male Child is 'caught up to God's throne and when Philip was snatched away...
  16. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    'The elect' would be referring to the remnant of Israel and the great tribulation saints, introduced in Rev.7:9-17 The church will have already been gathered prior to God's wrath.
  17. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Hello Corban! Regarding the end of the age, there are many different events which take place. The gathering of the church is one and the other is the Lords return to the earth to end the age. These are two separate events, with different purposes and which take place at different times. After...
  18. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Part II Again, Matthew 24:29-31 is referring to the event of the Lords return to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom. I mentioned this in Part I, which is because the gathering of the church and the Lord's return to the earth are two separate events, with different...
  19. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Part I Good day, Pilgrimshope! First of all, what is "oauksntesching" which you wrote 2 paragraphs above? :unsure: But to answer your question, there are many misinterpretations regarding end-time events, which keeps them from coming to a right conclusion. One of them is that there are many...