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  1. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    HI Blade! We can do it all, have faith and anticipating and watching for the Lord's appearing. We don't have to chose one over the other. Regarding the Lord's promise to gather us up to meet Him in the air, Paul said, "Comfort each other with these words." In writing to Titus Paul said: "For...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Introduction

    Greetings and Welcome, to the Forum AS2596!
  3. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    Greetings Gardenias! There shouldn't even be a mid or post tribulation belief. It is because of false teachings that we have these views. During the entire seven years of tribulation God's wrath will be poured out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. Since the believers in Christ are...
  4. Ahwatukee

    ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

    Hi Benadam! Great Tribulation Saints After the church has been gathered, that day, the Day of the Lord, the period in which God's wrath will take place, will close on the world like a trap. During that time there will be people who will who will come to believe in Christ who are introduced in...
  5. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    No, God's wrath is not only upon the beast worshipers. For example, only the those who have the seal of God in their foreheads, which is the 144,000 are exempt from the torment of the 5th trumpet. When that angel pours out his bowl on the sun, it will scorch people with fire and intense heat...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Why it will be a pre-trib rapture and why the rapture takes place.

    Pottersclay, we are talking about God here, right? You know, all things are possible for Him, nothing is impossible? Therefore, it is no great thing for God to raise the dead. Why would you think that they would have a problem standing? That said, it is no great thing for God to reanimate the...
  7. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    God's wrath will come upon everyone who is on the earth during that time. It will come upon all who have rejected His Son, the arrogant, the proud and all who willfully live according to the sinful nature. The church however will not be here, because the believer has already received Christ...
  8. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    Hello Luigi! To answer your question, those believers today, just as with the first century believers and every believer in between, have been suffering what Jesus said they would, i.e. persecution and even death for His name sake. This should not be equated with God's coming wrath via the...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Why it will be a pre-trib rapture and why the rapture takes place.

    Hello! No, I'm talking about those who came out of the tombs and went into the city after Christ had resurrected, as well as those Christ raised from the dead prior to that. Some have been saying that the patriarchs and other OT saints have already been resurrected in their immortal and...
  10. Ahwatukee

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    No problem! No offense taken. But it is a predictor of the future. For these events must come to pass. They must be fulfilled. The purpose of Revelation is stated right in the first verse: "This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must come to pass...
  11. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Instead of answering each one of those that you listed, which by the changes nothing, I will post why the last seven years has to be a future event. Let's first look at the decree that was pronounced upon Israel and Jerusalem: "Seventy weeks (of years) are decreed for your people and your holy...
  12. Ahwatukee

    ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

    I was speaking about the wicked who will be on the earth during that time. Many will reason with themselves about the mark because it will be the only way to buy and sell. I wasn't talking about the church because it will have already been removed.
  13. Ahwatukee

    The dead don't know anything, and can't talk or praise the LORD

    You'd think that it would settle the debate, unfortunately it never does. The proof of scripture just goes in one ear and out the other and that because it doesn't support the false teachings that they have already adopted. I also mentioned Moses and Elijah appearing with Jesus on the mount of...
  14. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Bud62, the weeds/wicked are gathered by the angels when Jesus returns to the earth to end the age. These will be LIVING people who will have made it through the entire tribulation period. There will be different groups on the earth during the tribulation period: 1). The unbelieving nation of...
  15. Ahwatukee

    The dead don't know anything, and can't talk or praise the LORD

    First of all, that was Samuel who came up. There is nothing in the scripture that would suggest otherwise. If it was a demon, he couldn't come up from the Abyss, because they are restricted there. The spirits of the dead can indeed talk and are conscious and aware. Remember Moses and Elijah...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Why it will be a pre-trib rapture and why the rapture takes place.

    Those people who came out of the tombs rose in their mortal bodies and died again. It was the spirits that were down in Hades that were taken to heaven. Those who came out of the tombs did so in their mortal bodies and died again. No one but Jesus has been resurrected in His immortal and...
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    Why it will be a pre-trib rapture and why the rapture takes place.

    Hello Absolutely! Where did you get the idea that I was saying that those who came out of their tombs did so in their immortal and glorified bodies? If you go back and read my posts (any of them), I have been teaching that all of the people that Jesus or the Apostles brought back to life such...
  18. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    Please go back and carefully read what I wrote. It flies in the face of accepted post-protestant Christian doctrine. It's not you personally, sir. It's the church as a whole that has betrayed the truths of the church fathers and accepted the norms of THE CHURCH FATHER - his holiness the...
  19. Ahwatukee

    If the Rapture is true, just who are the saints beheaded by the Antichrist?

    So again regarding what you said "post-protestant Christian INTERPRETATION is wrong" are you saying that the word of God is not correct and that we can't trust in it? If yes, then you would be turning people away, because as you said, the interpretation is wrong.
  20. Ahwatukee

    How many beleive we are in the Tribulation period now and why

    Here is the scripture: "He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ h In the middle of the ‘seven’ i he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple j he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Three...