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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    1) We can tell the difference. I always have. When you have the gift you know the difference. Because we are not making this stuff up and have actually been filled with an anointing we can tell when it is there and when it is not. 2) Your theory about needing to have someone identify the...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    And yet the same thing can be said about your narrative except in yours you spend far too much time judging the motives of your opponents rather than working on an exegesis of 1 Cor 14 that would be warmly embraced by all seekers of truth. In my opinion your interpretation of 1 Cor 14:14 is...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    We think you do all the same things that you think we are doing. We think you are changing the interpretation and authorial intent to fit your own structured reasoning to justify a lack of desire for spiritual gifts.
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    Dealing with Temptation advice?

    Romans 6. The whole chapter. (Biblehub.com Christian Standard Bible version:) 1What should we say then?a Should we continue in sin so that grace may multiply?b 2Absolutely not!a How can we who died to sinb still live in it? 3Or are you unaware that all of us who were baptizeda into Christ...
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    Elon Musk Buys Twitter

    People that say they are Christians are believing all kinds of stupid lies they read on the internet already. It is a huge problem that I have seen first hand in the last few years. There seems to be some kind of mental illness affecting Christians that they can't recognize a lying Meme or...
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    Elon Musk Buys Twitter

    Isn't it already like that?
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    I saw Putin ... oh yes

    I haven't had a vision but I get this strong expectation that if the homosexual agenda continues to be supported by laws to make it normal, or encouraged, such as allowing them to groom children in schools, then there will be a judgment come upon our country to declare that God will have the...
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    The Need For A Church Council

    The only Church councils worth having are those where the people pray and seek God until the Holy Spirit speaks. They were quite the charismatic council in Jerusalem. Leave out the charismatic part and you just have a board meeting.
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    We are on the same page my brother. Walking in the full light of day.
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I agree with the concept that these things were one time events. The flames over their heads, the sound of the rushing mighty wind, and even the mention of the foreign languages. After that no mention of foreign languages or anyone understanding in another language. Speaking in tongues...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    When did Paul get the gift? How does Anaias over in Damascus far removed from the leadership in Jerusalem support an theory of apolstolic authority needing to be present? Your "imagined reasons" for why they did not need hands laid on them, weakens the argument that hands being laid on them...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    In the assembly someone who gives a tongue and then someone interprets it is manifested in a different way. It is about the timing when it happens and the way it it is loud enough that everyone knows it is for someone to interpret. And this is not the same as when people are praying to to...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Peter did not lay hand on those in the House of Cornelius.
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    So you are thinking that Paul is saying something like " If I pray in the spirit in tongues, and did not have an interpreter my spirit would pray but my understanding would be unfruitful, but if I pray in tongues and then I also interpret it, my spirit prays, and my understanding is fruitful so...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Ok. Setting aside the gift of tongues and interpretation of tongues for a moment. What is your idea about how the gift of prophesy worked in the 1st Century charismatic church like Corinth or as we see it in other examples in Acts? In 1 Cor 14 we are given an example of what it looked like...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I won't contend for the 20 year statement. I am using logic. We can safely assume that he did not speak in tongues before Anaias laid hands on him. We can assume that is when he received the gift because that would match the repeated pattern we see in other accounts. We know that it was...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    So now I ask, (and I am not arguing, or trying to set you up for anything) what is the gift of interpretation of tongues in the church setting? Would you see it like this: Someone would speak in tongues, (a known language they had never learned) and someone who did not know that language...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    That would be so subjective. One person is convinced that they can discern the truth better than another one and they both judge each other as being the dishonest one. Every man is right in his own eyes, and calls it discernment. The scriptures are our only rule of faith and conduct...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I don't understand the logic you are using here. If the gift of interpretation of tongues in 1 Cor 12 - 14 is a supernatural gift of the Spirit then it has to be analyzed in that context. If you are saying that those lost people in the crowd on the day of Pentecost who heard and understood...
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    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I use the names interchangeably. The history of the movements that were labeled Pentecostal and then Charismatic are not so important today because it's not like there are differences in their interpretations on the scriptures we have been discussing. There are branches of Pentecostal...