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This has been my conclusion as well. I started this thread because there are expositors, scholars and theologians and every one in between who believe that the new heaven and new earth take place at the onset of the millennial kingdom. However, there are problems with this position. For example...

I also agree with this in that, after God's wrath (tribulation) has been poured out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, the Lord then returns to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom, which will be a literal thousand years. After the end of the thousand years and...

The word 'ouranos' translated as 'heaven' can mean 'the atmosphere, the sky, the starry heavens, the spiritual heavens.' So, since the verse is speaking about a new Earth, then your conclusion could be correct in that 'heaven' here is most likely speaking about the atmosphere/sky associated with...

At the expense of high jacking this thread, neither the dead, nor the living will leave their flesh behind when the resurrection takes place. Jesus is our example in that, when He rose, it was in the same body that He was crucified in, albeit raised immortal and glorified. The word 'anastasis'...

Hello Pilgrimshope, Thank you for responding. So, to be clear, when do you think the following will take place in the chronological order of end-time events? "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. I saw the holy city...

Just as there are controversies on many Biblical end-time events, there is also one regarding when the New Heaven, New Earth and New Jerusalem will come into being. One is that the they will come into being after the Millennial kingdom and after the Great White Throne Judgment. However, there is...

Greetings JesusWhereRU, While it is true that the beast is referred to as a kingdom/government, it also refers to the beast as an individual, as revealed in the following: "They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is...

Good day, Yahshua Here is both verse 6 & 7 together in the literal: "And now you know [that] which is restraining for his being revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is working already; there is only [the one] at present restraining it, until [he] might be gone out of the...

If you look at it from the other side, if a person is partying, being sexually immoral, getting drunk, doing drugs, etc., then you don't really need to gage it by the good fruit, because the continual bad fruit will give you the answer.

Good day, Yahshua! The problem with the Restrainer being a 'circumstance' is that in v.7 the Restrainer is referred to as a "He." The context makes it clear that the Restrainer is a person/entity. And that once this Restrainer is taken out of the way, then the man of lawlessness will be...

You didn't understand what I wrote. I told you and proved it to you without a doubt, that you cannot use the word 'apostasia' translated as 'departure' to mean depart up into the air. If you use 'departure' it has to retain the original meaning of the Greek 'apostasia.' If the Holy Spirit was...

Agreed! Those who are living same-sex life styles have the same opportunity as any sinner to believe in Christ and be saved. The problem is, some who claim to be in Christ who are living this live style, do not want to repent of it, but to embrace it while continuing to claim to be a Christian...

Thank you for saying so. So … How does the scripture above make me wrong? And wrong about what? I have always taught that 'The Day of the Lord' will be an unprecedented time of God's future wrath, the tribulation period, which will be carried out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments...

As I have pointed out so many times, the word 'apostasia' can be translated as 'defection, apostasy, departure (implying desertion), falling away, etc. If you use the word 'departure' then it must retain the original meaning of 'apostasia.' Therefore departure must mean to depart from faith and...

You yourself are wrong on this Rondonmon! The wheat is not just speaking about Israel, but about the Gentile saints who are still alive when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. In support of this, Matthew 24:31 states that the angels will go throughout the four corners of the earth and...

Good observation. And of course the answer is that the Lord has yet to be revealed from heaven in blazing fire, because it is referring to when He returns to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom.

Hi OldSage, The term "The Day of the Lord" is speaking specifically of the future unprecedented time of God's wrath and is not to be taken as a generic term. The book of Revelation is a detailed account of that time of wrath.

You can stop right there! The information regarding the living believers being transformed and caught up was something that was previously unknown. In 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, Paul says "Behold, I show you a Mystery." The word means some that was previously unknow because it was covered and is...

Why do you go about making false statements regarding this issue? There is nothing in the context that says that v.1 cannot happen until v.3. There is no support! The reason Paul starts off with "Concerning the appearing of our Lord and our being gathered to Him" is because there were some in...